I always enjoy the armchair "haha that's why you don't use <x>" engineers. It's ironic that I was having a discussion with colleagues this morning about not putting all of our eggs in one basket, and this happened. This shouldn't be an "I told you so" moment, it should be an Aha! moment. Nothing is bulletproof. Design with the assumption that you're actively fighting off failure from every direction, and just decide how much failure is acceptable. On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 8:39 AM Patrick W. Gilmore via Outages-discussion < outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 2025, at 05:32, Bill Woodcock via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Yet another reminder not to find yourself among the Eloi outsourcing their jobs to “cloud services.”
Yeah, not only do I think that ship has sailed, I also am reasonably certain this is not such a binary choice.
Perhaps, like all things in network operations, we should avoid SPOFs? A single “Availability Zone” (or whatever your provider calls it) is most certainly a SPOF. One could consider a single cloud provider a SPOF. I do.
Network operations - like life itself - is about tradeoffs. No one has infinite bandwidth, storage, time, money, resources, etc. Choose what you optimize for wisely.
Finally one interesting side effect of the current industry and the fact “hyperscalers” exist: Customers, and bosses, are more tolerant of outages when Amazon, Google, Microsoft going down is front page news. (Showing my age - not sure that phrase means anything today?) If your service is hosted on Billy-Joe-Bob’s Bait, Tackle, and Cloud service, not so much. Which makes it that much harder to break the hold AWS has.
-- TTFN, patrick
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