FYI: SpaceX is not the same as StarLink, despite both companies being controlled by the same megalomaniac. If SpaceX ever went “down,” it would be the result of a catastrophic rocket explosion that destroyed the launchpads at Vandenberg or Cape Canaveral beyond all recognition. And then we’d be making darkly humorous references to the Kerbal Space Program: “You will not go to space today.” -Brad
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I think Starlink is just a division of SpaceX? Money for Mars… On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 17:55 Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
FYI: SpaceX is not the same as StarLink, despite both companies being controlled by the same megalomaniac.
If SpaceX ever went “down,” it would be the result of a catastrophic rocket explosion that destroyed the launchpads at Vandenberg or Cape Canaveral beyond all recognition. And then we’d be making darkly humorous references to the Kerbal Space Program: “You will not go to space today.”
-Brad
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This is not the place for political opinions. Starlink is a wholly owned subsidiary of SpaceX.
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FYI: SpaceX is not the same as StarLink, despite both companies being controlled by the same megalomaniac.
If SpaceX ever went “down,” it would be the result of a catastrophic rocket explosion that destroyed the launchpads at Vandenberg or Cape Canaveral beyond all recognition. And then we’d be making darkly humorous references to the Kerbal Space Program: “You will not go to space today.”
-Brad
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"That’s just, like, your opinion, man.” Dictionary definitions are not inherently political. The word “megalomaniac" fits Elon Musk to a T—even when you don’t take his politics into account. - Merriam-Webster: a mania for great or grandiose performance - Cambridge Dictionary: someone who has an unnaturally strong wish for power and control, or thinks that they are much more important and powerful than they really are. - Wiktionary: megalomania is an obsession with power, wealth, fame, and a passion for grand schemes. Elon Musk has a known history of megalomania for nearly two decades including his work at Paypal, Tesla, The Boring Company, Hyperloop, and SpaceX / StarLink. On Jul 24, 2025, at 3:04 PM, Tim Burke <tim@mid.net> wrote: This is not the place for political opinions. Starlink is a wholly owned subsidiary of SpaceX. On Jul 24, 2025, at 16:57, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote: FYI: SpaceX is not the same as StarLink, despite both companies being controlled by the same megalomaniac. If SpaceX ever went “down,” it would be the result of a catastrophic rocket explosion that destroyed the launchpads at Vandenberg or Cape Canaveral beyond all recognition. And then we’d be making darkly humorous references to the Kerbal Space Program: “You will not go to space today.” -Brad On Jul 24, 2025, at 1:43 PM, Mike Hammett via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.newsweek.com/starlink-outage-service... ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ______________________________________________ Outages mailing list outages@outages.org Sign up for an account https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.outages.org/accounts/signup/__;!!P... To subscribe send an email to outages-join@outages.org To unsubscribe send an email to outages-leave@outages.org To contact the list owners outages-owner@outages.org Archives https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.outages.org/archives/list/outages@... Thank you for using Outages Lists! For post outage discussion, please redirect to outages-discussion@outages.org ______________________________________________ Outages-discussion mailing list outages-discussion@outages.org Sign up for an account https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.outages.org/accounts/signup/__;!!P... To subscribe send an email to outages-discussion-join@outages.org To unsubscribe send an email to outages-discussion-leave@outages.org To contact the list owners outages-owner@outages.org Archives https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.outages.org/archives/list/outages-... Thank you for using outages-discussion Lists!
Engaging in political discussion is not what this list is for, I also don't think it's a good idea to be making political statements using work email addresses. On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 at 17:29, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
"That’s just, like, your opinion, man.”
Dictionary definitions are not inherently political. The word “megalomaniac" fits Elon Musk to a T—even when you don’t take his politics into account.
- Merriam-Webster: a mania for great or grandiose performance
- Cambridge Dictionary: someone who has an unnaturally strong wish for power and control, or thinks that they are much more important and powerful than they really are.
- Wiktionary: megalomania is an obsession with power, wealth, fame, and a passion for grand schemes.
Elon Musk has a known history of megalomania for nearly two decades including his work at Paypal, Tesla, The Boring Company, Hyperloop, and SpaceX / StarLink.
On Jul 24, 2025, at 3:04 PM, Tim Burke <tim@mid.net> wrote:
This is not the place for political opinions. Starlink is a wholly owned subsidiary of SpaceX.
On Jul 24, 2025, at 16:57, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
FYI: SpaceX is not the same as StarLink, despite both companies being controlled by the same megalomaniac.
If SpaceX ever went “down,” it would be the result of a catastrophic rocket explosion that destroyed the launchpads at Vandenberg or Cape Canaveral beyond all recognition. And then we’d be making darkly humorous references to the Kerbal Space Program: “You will not go to space today.”
-Brad
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Your dislike for Twitter and Elon is well known. https://web.archive.org/web/20220426221107/https://puck.nether.net/pipermail... Let's keep this list on track for technical discussions. On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 6:33 PM Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
"That’s just, like, your opinion, man.”
Dictionary definitions are not inherently political. The word “megalomaniac" fits Elon Musk to a T—even when you don’t take his politics into account.
- Merriam-Webster: a mania for great or grandiose performance
- Cambridge Dictionary: someone who has an unnaturally strong wish for power and control, or thinks that they are much more important and powerful than they really are.
- Wiktionary: megalomania is an obsession with power, wealth, fame, and a passion for grand schemes.
Elon Musk has a known history of megalomania for nearly two decades including his work at Paypal, Tesla, The Boring Company, Hyperloop, and SpaceX / StarLink.
On Jul 24, 2025, at 3:04 PM, Tim Burke <tim@mid.net> wrote:
This is not the place for political opinions. Starlink is a wholly owned subsidiary of SpaceX.
On Jul 24, 2025, at 16:57, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
FYI: SpaceX is not the same as StarLink, despite both companies being controlled by the same megalomaniac.
If SpaceX ever went “down,” it would be the result of a catastrophic rocket explosion that destroyed the launchpads at Vandenberg or Cape Canaveral beyond all recognition. And then we’d be making darkly humorous references to the Kerbal Space Program: “You will not go to space today.”
-Brad
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Brad is objectively correct, tim, and I'm declaring any further extension of this thread out of bounds. On July 24, 2025 6:26:35 PM EDT, "Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion" <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
"That’s just, like, your opinion, man.”
Dictionary definitions are not inherently political. The word “megalomaniac" fits Elon Musk to a T—even when you don’t take his politics into account.
- Merriam-Webster: a mania for great or grandiose performance
- Cambridge Dictionary: someone who has an unnaturally strong wish for power and control, or thinks that they are much more important and powerful than they really are.
- Wiktionary: megalomania is an obsession with power, wealth, fame, and a passion for grand schemes.
Elon Musk has a known history of megalomania for nearly two decades including his work at Paypal, Tesla, The Boring Company, Hyperloop, and SpaceX / StarLink.
On Jul 24, 2025, at 3:04 PM, Tim Burke <tim@mid.net> wrote:
This is not the place for political opinions. Starlink is a wholly owned subsidiary of SpaceX.
On Jul 24, 2025, at 16:57, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
FYI: SpaceX is not the same as StarLink, despite both companies being controlled by the same megalomaniac.
If SpaceX ever went “down,” it would be the result of a catastrophic rocket explosion that destroyed the launchpads at Vandenberg or Cape Canaveral beyond all recognition. And then we’d be making darkly humorous references to the Kerbal Space Program: “You will not go to space today.”
-Brad
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One person’s OPINION cannot, by definition, be considered “objectively correct.” It was objectively a political statement/personal attack, which has no place here. You are free to “declare” whatever you wish, but we are all equals here. Per the list info page "Currently the mailing list is not vetted & unmoderated.” ---- Andy Ringsmuth andy@andyring.com
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Brad is objectively correct, tim, and I'm declaring any further extension of this thread out of bounds.
On July 24, 2025 6:26:35 PM EDT, "Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion" <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
"That’s just, like, your opinion, man.”
Dictionary definitions are not inherently political. The word “megalomaniac" fits Elon Musk to a T—even when you don’t take his politics into account.
- Merriam-Webster: a mania for great or grandiose performance
- Cambridge Dictionary: someone who has an unnaturally strong wish for power and control, or thinks that they are much more important and powerful than they really are.
- Wiktionary: megalomania is an obsession with power, wealth, fame, and a passion for grand schemes.
Elon Musk has a known history of megalomania for nearly two decades including his work at Paypal, Tesla, The Boring Company, Hyperloop, and SpaceX / StarLink.
On Jul 24, 2025, at 3:04 PM, Tim Burke <tim@mid.net> wrote:
This is not the place for political opinions. Starlink is a wholly owned subsidiary of SpaceX.
On Jul 24, 2025, at 16:57, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
FYI: SpaceX is not the same as StarLink, despite both companies being controlled by the same megalomaniac.
If SpaceX ever went “down,” it would be the result of a catastrophic rocket explosion that destroyed the launchpads at Vandenberg or Cape Canaveral beyond all recognition. And then we’d be making darkly humorous references to the Kerbal Space Program: “You will not go to space today.”
-Brad
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