A reminder for our old hands, and a tip for new list members: When you're querying the list about what you think may be an outage outside of your span of control: 1) Say what you see 2) Say how you looked 3) Say why you think it's external to your networks. Say these things in some detail; telling what you expected and why, and what you got. This would not be a bad thing to read: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html People are going to ask, anyway, and it saves an entire handshake. It makes things... SPDY. We now return you to your usual mostly-silence. Discussions to -discussion. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274