Thanks.. in this case it was. It's resolved now. Not sure why the mailing list finally submitted this, as I first posted this May 19th. From: Keith Stokes [mailto:keiths@neilltech.com] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:51 AM To: Tyler Applebaum Cc: outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] AT&T and Telia having issues ICMP loss is not a damning indicator of performance issues. On May 19, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Tyler Applebaum via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: HOST: PC-002 Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 172.31.255.1 0.0% 10 1 0.3 0 1 0.5 2.|-- 10.98.0.3 0.0% 10 2 1.1 1 2 0.3 3.|-- 67.51.253.17 0.0% 10 3 3.4 2 7 1.7 4.|-- 67.51.253.3 0.0% 10 1 1.0 1 1 0.0 5.|-- v202.core1.pdx1.he.net<http://core1.pdx1.he.net> 0.0% 10 1 2.4 1 6 1.7 6.|-- 10ge12-4.core1.sea1.he.ne 0.0% 10 12 12.8 5 18 4.5 7.|-- sea-b1-link.telia.net<http://sea-b1-link.telia.net> 0.0% 10 5 5.0 5 5 0.0 8.|-- den-b1-link.telia.net<http://den-b1-link.telia.net> 20.0% 10 108 107.5 107 109 0.8 9.|-- sjo-b21-link.telia.net<http://sjo-b21-link.telia.net> 30.0% 10 136 135.6 134 136 0.8 10.|-- 192.205.33.45 10.0% 10 138 146.1 137 217 26.6 11.|-- cr1.sffca.ip.att.net<http://sffca.ip.att.net> 20.0% 10 140 140.8 138 143 1.8 12.|-- 12.122.2.77 0.0% 10 136 141.3 136 154 4.9 13.|-- 12.122.160.149 30.0% 10 139 146.6 138 175 14.1 14.|-- 12.117.131.214 10.0% 10 140 140.8 138 143 1.5 15.|-- 199.103.47.2 20.0% 10 141 142.5 140 152 3.9 HOST: PC-002 Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 172.31.255.1 0.0% 10 1 0.7 0 3 0.9 2.|-- 10.98.0.4 0.0% 10 1 1.4 1 5 1.3 3.|-- 67.51.253.17 0.0% 10 6 3.3 2 6 1.6 4.|-- 67.51.253.1 0.0% 10 1 1.3 1 2 0.5 5.|-- 67.51.253.11 0.0% 10 2 1.4 1 2 0.5 6.|-- v202.core1.pdx1.he.net<http://core1.pdx1.he.net> 0.0% 10 11 3.3 1 12 4.3 7.|-- 10ge12-4.core1.sea1.he.ne 0.0% 10 7 8.5 7 11 1.5 8.|-- sea-b1-link.telia.net<http://sea-b1-link.telia.net> 0.0% 10 5 5.1 5 6 0.3 9.|-- att-ic-153030-sea-b1.c.te 0.0% 10 9 7.9 6 10 1.5 10.|-- cr83.st0wa.ip.att.net<http://st0wa.ip.att.net> 0.0% 10 123 120.6 118 123 1.9 11.|-- cr2.ptdor.ip.att.net<http://ptdor.ip.att.net> 0.0% 10 121 120.5 119 123 1.4 12.|-- cr2.sffca.ip.att.net<http://sffca.ip.att.net> 10.0% 10 122 119.7 118 122 1.6 13.|-- cr2.sc1ca.ip.att.net<http://sc1ca.ip.att.net> 0.0% 10 120 119.7 118 121 1.1 14.|-- 12.122.151.129 0.0% 10 121 120.4 119 122 0.8 15.|-- ??? 100.0% 5 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 16.|-- 71.157.120.39 66.7% 6 119 119.5 119 120 0.7 17.|-- 107-213-116-105.lightspee 0.0% 10 137 136.4 135 138 1.0 18.|-- 107.141.109.89 0.0% 10 137 137.0 136 141 1.5 Attention: Information contained in this message and or attachments is intended only for the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and or privileged material that is protected under State or Federal law. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken on it is prohibited. If you believe you have received this email in error, please contact the sender, delete this email and destroy all copies. _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org<mailto:Outages@outages.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages --- Keith Stokes Attention: Information contained in this message and or attachments is intended only for the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and or privileged material that is protected under State or Federal law. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken on it is prohibited. If you believe you have received this email in error, please contact the sender, delete this email and destroy all copies.