On 1/15/13 9:23 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
On 15 January 2013 18:54, Ben Aitchison <ben@meh.net.nz> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 06:44:24PM -0800, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
On 15 January 2013 18:10, Ben Aitchison <ben@meh.net.nz> wrote:
Japan/Hong Kong. But from reading about the Singapore Battle.net server for Starcraft 2, it sounded like Australia has a lot of ISP's with bad Asia routing in general so may not make much difference. As if routing between Asia-Pacific and Europe (or even Russia) is any good! :-p It's actually pretty good to Korea, Singapore, Japan, and Hong Kong generally.
It's India, Pakistan, China etc that aren't so good.
Europe to China is terrible though. I've got a friend who was asking about remote between UK/China. And if it's possible to get good routes to there.
And I can't find anyone doing good routing to China from Europe. I'm sure there's meant to be a cable with a good path? China telecom among other appears at de-cix. it's my experience that paths into china on the transit side are deliberately operated at capacity. When I worked for a large electronics manufacturing concern we had TDM and/or later l3vpn paths into our network in china from europe, one through central asia and another via the middle east, both required multiple provider handoffs. Ben. Do you have a traceroute of any of these good routes? Are they under 200ms or above 300ms?
I've never seen a traceroute between Japan (UTC+9) and either London (0/+1), Germany (+1/+2) or Moscow (+4 (formerly +3/+4)) that didn't go through usually both NYC (-5/-4) and SJC (-8/-7).
All in the northern hemisphere, timezone-wise Moscow and Japan are only 5 hours apart, whereas Moscow and SJC are 12 hours apart right now, and SJC and Japan are an extra 7 hours. 5 vs. 19? :-)
Actually, there were a couple of weeks when routing between HE.net in FMT and a RETN.net-based connection in MSK was going through Japan one way, and it was adding a little extra latency. As an end-user, that was the first and only time ever that I had any remote proof of any internet pipes leaving Russia not through Europe!
http://tu.cnst.su/post/13096244490/he-net-pings-between-fremont1-and-moscow-... https://plus.google.com/101080388381040783378/posts/LY6m7edSe5x
But the traceroute below is representative of about the only route there is between Europe and Asia:
# traceroute www.allbsd.org traceroute to www.allbsd.org (133.31.130.35), 32 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 [AS29182] gw.webdc.ru (188.120.247.254) 0.592 ms 0.497 ms 0.416 ms 2 [AS29182] xe200-40.webdc.ru (92.63.108.89) 0.422 ms 0.396 ms 0.253 ms 3 [AS29470] 46.46.168.173 (46.46.168.173) 0.447 ms 0.561 ms 0.718 ms 4 [AS9002] xe000-8.RT.TLX.NYC.US.retn.net (87.245.233.114) 124.381 ms 124.784 ms 124.506 ms 5 [AS4637] NYIIX.IIJ.Net (198.32.160.42) 124.510 ms 124.533 ms 124.506 ms 6 [AS14936] sjc002bb01.IIJ.net (206.132.169.206) 209.920 ms 209.940 ms 209.929 ms 7 [AS14936] sjc002bf02.IIJ.net (206.132.169.249) 209.930 ms [AS14936] sjc002bf00.IIJ.Net (206.132.169.241) 209.967 ms [AS14936] sjc002bf02.IIJ.Net (206.132.169.249) 209.971 ms 8 [AS2497] tky001bf00.IIJ.Net (216.98.96.181) 314.845 ms [AS14936] tky009bf01.IIJ.net (206.132.169.122) 312.017 ms [AS2497] tky001bf00.IIJ.Net (216.98.96.185) 314.899 ms 9 [AS2497] tky009bb11.IIJ.Net (58.138.80.214) 313.616 ms [AS2497] tky009bb11.IIJ.Net (58.138.80.210) 312.620 ms [AS2497] tky009bb10.IIJ.Net (58.138.80.170) 313.504 ms 10 [AS2497] tky009ipgw11.IIJ.Net (58.138.112.158) 312.611 ms [AS2497] tky009ipgw10.IIJ.Net (58.138.112.154) 314.176 ms [AS2497] tky009ipgw10.IIJ.Net (58.138.112.146) 312.732 ms 11 [AS2497] tky009ip71.IIJ.Net (58.138.112.110) 312.879 ms [AS2497] tky009ip71.IIJ.Net (58.138.112.102) 313.562 ms [AS2497] tky009ip71.IIJ.Net (58.138.112.110) 313.660 ms 12 [AS2497] 210.138.9.166 (210.138.9.166) 322.967 ms 355.891 ms 352.757 ms 13 [AS55390] 133.31.14.2 (133.31.14.2) 325.548 ms 320.578 ms 316.472 ms 14 [AS55390] vlsi03.si.noda.tus.ac.jp (133.31.130.35) 317.491 ms 314.033 ms 315.634 ms
The latency could have been around 130ms if it didn't go through NA. Wishful thinking, I know!
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