If only there was a discussion list, to discuss what is and is not on topic for the outages mailing list. If it were me, I'd name it outages-discussion. ;-) Ken On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 8:47 AM Christopher Conley via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:
“Also, it’s worth pointing out that the by-chatter on this issue has generated ten times the traffic that the original notification did. If a notification isn’t useful to you in particular, surely you can let it go by without comment.”
But if you just ignore it like a reasonable person, other people wouldn’t know that they’re being *wrong* on the Internet! We can’t let that happen, Rob. We must be vigilant in our gatekeeping.
Christopher Conley
Systems Administrator | Fors Marsh Group
Arlington, VA 22203
*From:* Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> *On Behalf Of *Rob Repp via Outages *Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:33 AM *To:* Otto, Doug <dotto@phs.org> *Cc:* outages@outages.org *Subject:* Re: [outages] facebook slow
Agreed. For example, we’re an educational setting, and it’s in common use for community communications here. Also, it’s worth pointing out that the by-chatter on this issue has generated ten times the traffic that the original notification did. If a notification isn’t useful to you in particular, surely you can let it go by without comment.
Tks,
R.
Rob Repp
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Winnetka Public Schools District 36
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On Nov 20, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Otto, Doug via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Whether Facebook is or isn’t business critical depends on the nature of the business. If it’s not important to you, ignore the email. What’s so hard about that?
*From: *Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> on behalf of "Ferullo, Michael J. via Outages" <outages@outages.org> *Reply-To: *"Ferullo, Michael J." <mferullo@hinckleyallen.com> *Date: *Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 8:25 AM *To: *'Steven McCrory' <steven@simplyip.net>, 'Mike Bolitho' < mikebolitho@gmail.com>, "outages@ics-il.net" <outages@ics-il.net> *Cc: *"'outages@outages.org'" <outages@outages.org> *Subject: *Re: [outages] facebook slow
Also much in agreement here. I signed up for this list for exactly what Mike stated: meaningful business critical services. I’d suggest someone spearhead the creation of another list for anything “social media” related.
*Michael J. Ferullo* *Systems Administrator* ------------------------------
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*From:* Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> *On Behalf Of *Steven McCrory via Outages *Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:23 AM *To:* 'Mike Bolitho' <mikebolitho@gmail.com>; outages@ics-il.net; outages@outages.org *Subject:* Re: [outages] facebook slow
Wholeheartedly agree
*From:* Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> *On Behalf Of *Mike Bolitho via Outages *Sent:* 20 November 2018 15:18 *To:* outages@ics-il.net *Cc:* outages@outages.org *Subject:* Re: [outages] facebook slow
I would encourage everyone to revisit the info page for the outages mailing list found here: https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages
*"The purpose of this list is to have a central place to lookup and report so that end users & network operators know why their services (e-mail, phones, etc) went down eliminating the need to open tons of trouble tickets during a major event. One master ticket - such as fiber cut affect xxx OC48's would suffice. We hope this would empower users and network operators to post such events so that everyone could benefit from it. "*
The list is for reporting outages on carrier networks and has grown to cloud services (AWS, Azure) as those have expanded. Facebook is not a provider of any meaningful business critical services, and therefore does not fit in this forum.
- Mike Bolitho
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 7:57 AM Mike Hammett via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:
Facebook is a fairly commonly used service.
Also, it's currently broken and has been so for about an hour.
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*From: *"Tanner Ryan via Outages" <outages@outages.org> *To: *"jimmy keffer" <horsezip@earthlink.net> *Cc: *outages@outages.org *Sent: *Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:50:40 AM *Subject: *Re: [outages] facebook slow
I don’t see the point of sending this in the outages mailing list.
Best,
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