I've been seeing, for a day or three, problems where *some* pairs of users cannot get AIM to admit to one another that they exist. Frex: I can talk to S, S can talk to J, but when J and I add one another to our buddy lists, we each see the other user as off-line, and cannot message them. Client is Pidgin 2.5.1 on Windows, and some other version, possibly, on Linux. Just now, I've had J send me a message, but she *still* doesn't show up in my buddy list where I added her. Spelling doublechecked, etc. Anyone know of any internal problems with AIM this week? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Start a man a fire, and he'll be warm all night. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.