Yeah, in talking with folks here in France it seems that everything got routed around, albeit with some higher latencies in some cases.
On Jul 30, 2024, at 18:27, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
Based on the comments in those messages, apparently the locations on the internet cabling were not selected carefully enough.
"...and routes around it."
Cheers, -- jra
On July 30, 2024 12:18:17 PM EDT, Bill Woodcock via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote: Also, from Rudolf:
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From: "Rudolf van der Berg" <rudolfvanderberg@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [net-econ] Attack on French vital infrastructures Date: July 30, 2024 at 14:10:48 GMT+2 To: net-econ@groups.io Resent-From: rudolfvanderberg@gmail.com Reply-To: net-econ@groups.io
A quick copy paste from something I wrote on a Dutch site. Google translated it
Update: photos of broken cables https://x.com/nguillam/status/1817870929520677023
A better source is Numerama. They also link to a number of twitter accounts of serious people in the French internet world who know what's going on. https://www.numerama.com/...-sur-votre-connexion.html
The affected cables are in 6 areas across the country: 11 (Aude), 34 (Hérault), 51 (Marne), 55 (Meuse), 13 (Bouches du Rhône) and 84 (Vaucluse). They seem to be mainly cables from the French operator SFR, which other operators, such as Free, OVH, Bouygues also use. The social effects seem to be limited. The traffic seems to be rerouted. The alternative route is sometimes not ideal, for example there are traceroutes that show that OVH to Orange seems to run via Singapore. https://x.com/BoolKiRool/status/1817819378395570206
Downdetector does show that there is an impact, but it does not seem that large banks and other social services have been badly affected.
Something similar happened 2 years ago, but the locations are not the same. There were speculations at the time that it could have been extremists (left/right), union members or angry employees. It remains unclear who they really were. So I would not dare to speculate now about who did this. In any case, France has often seen strange sabotage of telecom infrastructure, sometimes done by competing technicians from telcos! Monks have even been arrested for setting fire to masts.
(I know some people in the French Internet scene and have been in contact with them about this)
Op di 30 jul 2024 om 09:15 schreef Jaap van Till via groups.io <vantill=gmail.com@groups.io>: Dear all,
Not only the high speed TGV train infrastructure was attacked by fires ? at several places at the same time, claimed by extreme leftwing people. But also certain carefully selected optic fiber cables where cut all over France. Not much was published about that though. In the press they only mentioned that in certain “departements”(provinces) Internet access was unavailable, but that it worked fine in Paris region. I hope this habit will not spread among political activists, because it can endanger lives.
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