Feel free to redirict to -discuss if this is more appropriate there. I think making the definition of "major" more clear would be useful. Despite Steve's comment about DNS, I think outages of 8.8.8.8 or OpenDNS count as major. I think state-wide broadband outages also qualifies. Perhaps put a number of users affected? Perhaps add an exception for geographical areas, say a whole country or province/state? Then when people email the list about a traceroute and having 20% packet loss on hop 5 out of 12 and nothing anything else, we can make fun of them. You know, since that always works. Oh, I almost forgot: Jay, you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny. (That should stop him from off-topic posting. :) -- TTFN, patrick On Feb 07, 2013, at 20:04 , Carlos Alvarez <carlos@televolve.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Stephen Wilcox <steve.wilcox@ixreach.com>wrote:
It should be but it seems to have descended into website outage, dns blips and localised cable provider reporting lately.
Perhaps time for a new list with less noise?
Or a stronger definition of "major?" I recently started a discussion on a state-wide Cox outage. That seems major to me, but I really don't know if that's within the list terms. Many times people post up that their one home internet connection is down, which clearly is outside the scope. Some better definition and enforcement of such may help.
There was a discussion on whether Facebook is a major part of "infrastructure" some time ago. As much as most of us would like to say it's not, the reality is that to many end users it is the internet or the e-mail system. Does this list apply to that?
I'm subscribed here so I can learn of things that will affect our customers, and therefore us. We are a VoIP hosted service company with customers globally, to IP and PSTN outages everywhere affect us.