[ Apologies; it's been an unusually busy week; I just got back to the list ] [ Please direct all replies to -discussion; not the main list. If you feel the need to reply and aren't on the -discussion list, it's easy to subscribe. ] <moderator> There's been some question again lately about what's in-scope for this list. Obviously, that include things which are directly related to the networking of the Internet and of other major communications networks; notification of last night's AT&T 911 outage was in-scope, for example. It includes backbone links and routers, IX problems, and problems with upper-layer services that apply to a large number of end-sites, like DDoS attacks on Cloudflare, Akamai, etc. We've also defined it to apply to outages and sub-outage problems (whether functional or regional) in endpoint services, like AWS, Azure and other cloud providers, and to large end-user services whether they host there or in other places, like Netflix. The goal of including things like this, often considered out of scope in other venues, is to provide information to those who work at eyeball networks like cable ISPs or college resnets, and who might get a lot of support calls on a Netflix outage, for example. SUGGESTIONS: It's been a tradition on both mailing lists and Usenet (remember Usenet?) for years and years that if you ask a question, you take the replies directly and summmarize, rather than inviting people to reply directly to the list or group. This approach will serve us well here, too, I suspect. I know that this list cannot be all things to all people, and that being useful to some will make it less useful to others, and there's not too much Virendra and I can do about that as moderators. But, if possible, I'd like it if people could tell *me* if things are getting out of hand, rather than each other. I'm not always following the list myself, but I'm happy to step in if someone points out a problem -- I do try to look in at least once a day, but that's not always enough, clearly. In any event: METOO and NOTME is almost always off-topic for the main list. The NVIDIA service outage is probably not of sufficiently pervasive interest to be on-topic for the main list either; it's not going to generate lots of support inquiries *to network providers*, though people might scream at NVIDIA themselves a bit. :-) 911 was on-topic. In my humble opinions. Again, please direct further discussions about this to -discussions. :-) Cheers, -- jra </moderator> -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274