Also, for issues connecting to anything that's anycasted (8.8.8.8) or might be served from a CDN (Google, Cloudflare, etc) please indicate your location (and ISP) and provide a traceroute to the affected resource (ideally a traceroute to tcp port 80 if you're complaining about a website). Damian On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Jay R. Ashworth via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:

A reminder for our old hands, and a tip for new list members:

When you're querying the list about what you think may be an outage outside of your span of control:

1) Say what you see

2) Say how you looked

3) Say why you think it's external to your networks.

Say these things in some detail; telling what you expected and why, and what you got. This would not be a bad thing to read:

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html

People are going to ask, anyway, and it saves an entire handshake. It makes things... SPDY.

We now return you to your usual mostly-silence. Discussions to -discussion.

Cheers, -- jra

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