Vandalism of CenturyLink fibre in Arizona causes large outage footprint.
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"According to Juarez, technicians from Monroe, Louisiana-based CenturyLink had to go through a long, tedious process of inspecting the line "mile by mile." Meanwhile, Flagstaff's 69,000 residents tried to go about their daily business." So, northern Arizona is entirely single homed from a CenturyLink fiber, and CenturyLink technicians don't own an OTDR but in fact walk miles to find cuts? Sounds more like CenturyLink made a huge mess up here and threw out some PR spin that the media believes is normal, vandals huh.. On 26 February 2015 at 15:30, Roland Dobbins via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:
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On 2/26/15 7:53 AM, Stephen Wilcox via Outages wrote:
"According to Juarez, technicians from Monroe, Louisiana-based CenturyLink had to go through a long, tedious process of inspecting the line "mile by mile." Meanwhile, Flagstaff's 69,000 residents tried to go about their daily business."
So, northern Arizona is entirely single homed from a CenturyLink fiber, and CenturyLink technicians don't own an OTDR but in fact walk miles to find cuts?
Sounds more like CenturyLink made a huge mess up here and threw out some PR spin that the media believes is normal, vandals huh..
in the 2013 san jose cut, the cable was severed in two places, making the distance to break different from both ends.
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On 26 February 2015 at 17:07, joel jaeggli via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
On 2/26/15 7:53 AM, Stephen Wilcox via Outages wrote:
"According to Juarez, technicians from Monroe, Louisiana-based CenturyLink had to go through a long, tedious process of inspecting the line "mile by mile." Meanwhile, Flagstaff's 69,000 residents tried to go about their daily business."
So, northern Arizona is entirely single homed from a CenturyLink fiber, and CenturyLink technicians don't own an OTDR but in fact walk miles to find cuts?
Sounds more like CenturyLink made a huge mess up here and threw out some PR spin that the media believes is normal, vandals huh..
in the 2013 san jose cut, the cable was severed in two places, making the distance to break different from both ends.
not running an OTDR from both ends to determine the extent of the break and any damage to the cable (such as stretching) is incompetence... I'd hope the long distance field engineers understood how to analyse and repair a break (then again, I'd hope they knew how to build a redundant network too)
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Stephen Wilcox via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
On 26 February 2015 at 17:07, joel jaeggli via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
On 2/26/15 7:53 AM, Stephen Wilcox via Outages wrote:
"According to Juarez, technicians from Monroe, Louisiana-based CenturyLink had to go through a long, tedious process of inspecting the line "mile by mile." Meanwhile, Flagstaff's 69,000 residents tried to go about their daily business."
So, northern Arizona is entirely single homed from a CenturyLink fiber, and CenturyLink technicians don't own an OTDR but in fact walk miles to find cuts?
Sounds more like CenturyLink made a huge mess up here and threw out some PR spin that the media believes is normal, vandals huh..
in the 2013 san jose cut, the cable was severed in two places, making the distance to break different from both ends.
not running an OTDR from both ends to determine the extent of the break and any damage to the cable (such as stretching) is incompetence... I'd hope the long distance field engineers understood how to analyse and repair a break
It's entirely *possible* that the CL engineers are completely incompetent and presently peering into the EDFAs while repeatedly pushing the Laser Shutdown Override and saying to each other "I think I saw it flash, do that again..." I suspect that it is *much* more likely that whoever the press called is entirely non-technical, but trying to be helpful and explaining what *they* know at the moment. The story that ends up in the paper is often wildly different from what an engineer would say..
(then again, I'd hope they knew how to build a redundant network too)
Nod. W
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It’s possible that there were multiple, marginal issues. An OTDR will find a break or major discontinuity (severe bend, etc.) An OTDR will *not* show minor faults like abraded sheats, rodent damage that hasn’t reached the fibers yet, etc. If the techs found vandalism in some areas that didn’t break strands, they would have been suspicious and started looking more closely along the line to find out what else *might* be going on. Essentially preventative maintenance. I’m just saying that it might not be all PR spin… -Bill From: Outages [mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Wilcox via Outages Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:54 AM To: Roland Dobbins Cc: Outages@outages.org<mailto:Outages@outages.org> Subject: Re: [outages] Vandalism of CenturyLink fibre in Arizona causes large outage footprint. "According to Juarez, technicians from Monroe, Louisiana-based CenturyLink had to go through a long, tedious process of inspecting the line "mile by mile." Meanwhile, Flagstaff's 69,000 residents tried to go about their daily business." So, northern Arizona is entirely single homed from a CenturyLink fiber, and CenturyLink technicians don't own an OTDR but in fact walk miles to find cuts? Sounds more like CenturyLink made a huge mess up here and threw out some PR spin that the media believes is normal, vandals huh.. On 26 February 2015 at 15:30, Roland Dobbins via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: <https://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-probing-outage-cut-internet-phones-arizona-092936953.html> ----------------------------------- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net<mailto:rdobbins@arbor.net>> _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org<mailto:Outages@outages.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages
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