Re: [outages] amazon west issues?

54.236.190.113 lands me in the east coast it seems. IE. All my west coast boxes go east, And my East Coast boxes go north. Toward NY/WDC? Same with 72.21.222.35. Also, Remember. Mid-traceroute loss that doesn't continue to the end isn't a valid indication of Packet Loss. Control-plane loss != forwarding-plane loss. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 ---------------------------------------- From: "jd" <jd@boldnetworks.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:25 PM To: outages@outages.org Subject: [outages] amazon west issues? 3. ae3.cr2.lax112.us.above.net 0.0% 402 2.8 7.1 2.6 62.3 11.2 4. ae1.cr2.sjc2.us.above.net 0.0% 402 10.9 13.0 10.8 77.6 9.2 5. xe-0-1-0.mpr2.sea1.us.above.net 0.0% 402 27.6 29.9 27.5 91.8 9.5 6. 72.21.221.45 4.2% 402 27.7 30.6 27.6 92.3 7.4 7. 205.251.225.196 0.0% 401 86.5 85.4 84.3 137.3 4.3 8. 178.236.3.34 0.0% 401 81.6 82.3 81.5 105.3 2.6 9. 72.21.220.4 0.0% 401 81.5 82.8 81.4 118.5 4.6 10. 72.21.220.39 0.0% 401 82.7 82.8 82.3 98.9 1.1 11. 205.251.245.55 0.0% 401 83.7 83.4 82.3 122.1 3.9 12. ??? the ip is 54.236.190.113 that seems like a pretty high latency to seattle and some packet loss. fifi.org shows something similiar. tantale.home.fifi.org 0% 1 1 0.62 0.62 0.62 173-228-89-1.dsl.static.sonic.net 0% 1 1 20.88 20.88 20.88 gig1-29.cr1.lsatca11.sonic.net 0% 1 1 10.68 10.68 10.68 0.xe-5-1-0.gw.pao1.sonic.net 0% 1 1 15.79 15.79 15.79 199.127.107.189 0% 1 1 19.89 19.89 19.89 xe0-0-0-7.core2.sv8.layer42.net 0% 1 1 20.77 20.77 20.77 amazon-peer.pao.layer42.net 0% 1 1 15.83 15.83 15.83 205.251.229.6 0% 1 1 90.92 90.92 90.92 72.21.222.225 0% 1 1 80.94 80.94 80.94 205.251.244.18 0% 1 1 90.69 90.69 90.69 72.21.220.53 0% 1 1 96.40 96.40 96.40 72.21.222.35 0% 1 1 85.91 85.91 85.91 jd _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

I see. I guess i also stumbled upon the whois that was showing amazon, didn't bother to look at the mask, that's just their whois ;) thank you. On 2/18/2014 10:02 AM, Nick Olsen wrote:
54.236.190.113 lands me in the east coast it seems. IE. All my west coast boxes go east, And my East Coast boxes go north. Toward NY/WDC? Same with 72.21.222.35.
Also, Remember. Mid-traceroute loss that doesn't continue to the end isn't a valid indication of Packet Loss.
Control-plane loss != forwarding-plane loss.
Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From*: "jd" <jd@boldnetworks.net> *Sent*: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:25 PM *To*: outages@outages.org *Subject*: [outages] amazon west issues?
3. ae3.cr2.lax112.us.above.net 0.0% 402 2.8 7.1 2.6 62.3 11.2 4. ae1.cr2.sjc2.us.above.net 0.0% 402 10.9 13.0 10.8 77.6 9.2 5. xe-0-1-0.mpr2.sea1.us.above.net 0.0% 402 27.6 29.9 27.5 91.8 9.5 6. 72.21.221.45 4.2% 402 27.7 30.6 27.6 92.3 7.4 7. 205.251.225.196 0.0% 401 86.5 85.4 84.3 137.3 4.3 8. 178.236.3.34 0.0% 401 81.6 82.3 81.5 105.3 2.6 9. 72.21.220.4 0.0% 401 81.5 82.8 81.4 118.5 4.6 10. 72.21.220.39 0.0% 401 82.7 82.8 82.3 98.9 1.1 11. 205.251.245.55 0.0% 401 83.7 83.4 82.3 122.1 3.9 12. ???
the ip is 54.236.190.113
that seems like a pretty high latency to seattle and some packet loss.
fifi.org shows something similiar.
tantale.home.fifi.org 0% 1 1 0.62 0.62 0.62 173-228-89-1.dsl.static.sonic.net 0% 1 1 20.88 20.88 20.88 gig1-29.cr1.lsatca11.sonic.net 0% 1 1 10.68 10.68 10.68 0.xe-5-1-0.gw.pao1.sonic.net 0% 1 1 15.79 15.79 15.79 199.127.107.189 0% 1 1 19.89 19.89 19.89 xe0-0-0-7.core2.sv8.layer42.net 0% 1 1 20.77 20.77 20.77 amazon-peer.pao.layer42.net 0% 1 1 15.83 15.83 15.83 205.251.229.6 0% 1 1 90.92 90.92 90.92 72.21.222.225 0% 1 1 80.94 80.94 80.94 205.251.244.18 0% 1 1 90.69 90.69 90.69 72.21.220.53 0% 1 1 96.40 96.40 96.40 72.21.222.35 0% 1 1 85.91 85.91 85.91
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Correct. 54.236.190.113 is at US-EAST-1 (Ashburn, VA) and not US-WEST-2 (Boardman, OR) On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:19 PM, jd <jd@boldnetworks.net> wrote:
I see. I guess i also stumbled upon the whois that was showing amazon, didn't bother to look at the mask, that's just their whois ;)
thank you.
On 2/18/2014 10:02 AM, Nick Olsen wrote:
54.236.190.113 lands me in the east coast it seems. IE. All my west coast boxes go east, And my East Coast boxes go north. Toward NY/WDC? Same with 72.21.222.35.
Also, Remember. Mid-traceroute loss that doesn't continue to the end isn't a valid indication of Packet Loss.
Control-plane loss != forwarding-plane loss.
Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
------------------------------ *From*: "jd" <jd@boldnetworks.net> <jd@boldnetworks.net> *Sent*: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:25 PM *To*: outages@outages.org *Subject*: [outages] amazon west issues?
3. ae3.cr2.lax112.us.above.net 0.0% 402 2.8 7.1 2.6 62.3 11.2 4. ae1.cr2.sjc2.us.above.net 0.0% 402 10.9 13.0 10.8 77.6 9.2 5. xe-0-1-0.mpr2.sea1.us.above.net 0.0% 402 27.6 29.9 27.5 91.8 9.5 6. 72.21.221.45 4.2% 402 27.7 30.6 27.6 92.3 7.4 7. 205.251.225.196 0.0% 401 86.5 85.4 84.3 137.3 4.3 8. 178.236.3.34 0.0% 401 81.6 82.3 81.5 105.3 2.6 9. 72.21.220.4 0.0% 401 81.5 82.8 81.4 118.5 4.6 10. 72.21.220.39 0.0% 401 82.7 82.8 82.3 98.9 1.1 11. 205.251.245.55 0.0% 401 83.7 83.4 82.3 122.1 3.9 12. ???
the ip is 54.236.190.113
that seems like a pretty high latency to seattle and some packet loss.
fifi.org shows something similiar.
tantale.home.fifi.org 0% 1 1 0.62 0.62 0.62 173-228-89-1.dsl.static.sonic.net 0% 1 1 20.88 20.88 20.88 gig1-29.cr1.lsatca11.sonic.net 0% 1 1 10.68 10.68 10.68 0.xe-5-1-0.gw.pao1.sonic.net 0% 1 1 15.79 15.79 15.79 199.127.107.189 0% 1 1 19.89 19.89 19.89 xe0-0-0-7.core2.sv8.layer42.net 0% 1 1 20.77 20.77 20.77 amazon-peer.pao.layer42.net 0% 1 1 15.83 15.83 15.83 205.251.229.6 0% 1 1 90.92 90.92 90.92 72.21.222.225 0% 1 1 80.94 80.94 80.94 205.251.244.18 0% 1 1 90.69 90.69 90.69 72.21.220.53 0% 1 1 96.40 96.40 96.40 72.21.222.35 0% 1 1 85.91 85.91 85.91
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