Re: [outages] Explosion in Nashville
Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Brian Knight via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Once upon a time, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net> said:
Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
For most common issues, natural gas is fine, and doesn't require fuel delivery trucks. Some locations don't allow signifant on-w]site fuel storage. There are always pros and cons... -- Chris Adams <cma@cmadams.net>
On Dec 25, 2020, at 11:01 PM, Chris Adams via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Once upon a time, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net> said:
Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
For most common issues, natural gas is fine, and doesn't require fuel delivery trucks. Some locations don't allow signifant on-w]site fuel storage. There are always pros and cons...
Yep. I always used to do propane / CNG dual-mode. Often easier to get propane delivered than diesel, and you don’t deplete your stores for test-runs or unless the emergency is so bad that utility CNG gets shut off. -Bill
It’s pretty common since NG normally flows ________________________________ From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> on behalf of Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 4:50:05 PM To: Brian Knight via Outages <outages@outages.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] Explosion in Nashville CAUTION: The e-mail below is from an external source. Please exercise caution before opening attachments, clicking links, or following guidance. Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
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Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com> wrote:
It’s pretty common since NG normally flows
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Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
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Diesel works until it doesn't. Remember the NY situation during Sandy? On Fri, Dec 25, 2020, 5:07 PM Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com> wrote:
It’s pretty common since NG normally flows
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Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
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Yes. Obviously you need large enough reserves.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
Diesel works until it doesn't. Remember the NY situation during Sandy?
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020, 5:07 PM Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote: Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com> wrote:
It’s pretty common since NG normally flows
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Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
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I find this very interesting as well “ The Federal Aviation Administration said an air traffic control tower at the Nashville International Airport lost phone and internet capabilities around 1 p.m. because of a phone line outage. The outage resulted in the Memphis Air Traffic Control Center, which handles high-altitude traffic out of Nashville, to stop air traffic in and around the airport beginning at 2 p.m. local time. ” ATC doesn’t have redundant systems in place?
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
Yes. Obviously you need large enough reserves.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
Diesel works until it doesn't. Remember the NY situation during Sandy?
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020, 5:07 PM Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote: Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com> wrote:
It’s pretty common since NG normally flows
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Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
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Yet another reminder that this is not a discussion list, and that there IS a discussion list. It baffles me that people on this list are so hellbent on not using the discuss list for discussion.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:55 PM, Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Yes. Obviously you need large enough reserves.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
Diesel works until it doesn't. Remember the NY situation during Sandy?
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020, 5:07 PM Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote: Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com> wrote:
It’s pretty common since NG normally flows
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Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
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My apologies. I thought we were on the discussion list. Not sure how the thread jumped back.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Brett Dikeman <brett.dikeman@gmail.com> wrote:
Yet another reminder that this is not a discussion list, and that there IS a discussion list. It baffles me that people on this list are so hellbent on not using the discuss list for discussion.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:55 PM, Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Yes. Obviously you need large enough reserves.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
Diesel works until it doesn't. Remember the NY situation during Sandy?
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020, 5:07 PM Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote: Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com> wrote:
It’s pretty common since NG normally flows
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Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
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