I've been seeing, for a day or three, problems where *some* pairs of users cannot get AIM to admit to one another that they exist. Frex: I can talk to S, S can talk to J, but when J and I add one another to our buddy lists, we each see the other user as off-line, and cannot message them. Client is Pidgin 2.5.1 on Windows, and some other version, possibly, on Linux. Just now, I've had J send me a message, but she *still* doesn't show up in my buddy list where I added her. Spelling doublechecked, etc. Anyone know of any internal problems with AIM this week? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Start a man a fire, and he'll be warm all night. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Are we certain this isn't another case of the underlying protocol (in this case OSCAR) being changed or adjusted in some way? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:28:12AM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
I've been seeing, for a day or three, problems where *some* pairs of users cannot get AIM to admit to one another that they exist.
Frex:
I can talk to S, S can talk to J, but when J and I add one another to our buddy lists, we each see the other user as off-line, and cannot message them.
Client is Pidgin 2.5.1 on Windows, and some other version, possibly, on Linux.
Just now, I've had J send me a message, but she *still* doesn't show up in my buddy list where I added her. Spelling doublechecked, etc.
Anyone know of any internal problems with AIM this week?
Cheers, -- jra
-- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
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Working fine over here. Using Pidgin 2.5.4 --William On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Jeremy Chadwick <outages@jdc.parodius.com>wrote:
Are we certain this isn't another case of the underlying protocol (in this case OSCAR) being changed or adjusted in some way?
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On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:28:12AM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
I've been seeing, for a day or three, problems where *some* pairs of users cannot get AIM to admit to one another that they exist.
Frex:
I can talk to S, S can talk to J, but when J and I add one another to our buddy lists, we each see the other user as off-line, and cannot message them.
Client is Pidgin 2.5.1 on Windows, and some other version, possibly, on Linux.
Just now, I've had J send me a message, but she *still* doesn't show up in my buddy list where I added her. Spelling doublechecked, etc.
Anyone know of any internal problems with AIM this week?
Cheers, -- jra
-- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
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----- "Jeremy Chadwick" <outages@jdc.parodius.com> wrote:
Are we certain this isn't another case of the underlying protocol (in this case OSCAR) being changed or adjusted in some way?
It's entirely possible it could be that, especially since it only seemed to be happening to newly added contacts. To confuse things worse, that new contact J of mine, *while still showing up in Pidgin as unavailable*, did get through to me, and I could chat with her. Though I could not originate to her, and I think she still saw me as offline. I wouldn't object to switching to some other protocol/server, but I have Metcalfe's Law problems... Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Start a man a fire, and he'll be warm all night. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Jay R. Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
I wouldn't object to switching to some other protocol/server, but I have Metcalfe's Law problems...
For what it's worth, I've seen similar problems with losing contact state from XMPP-based servers, specifically Openfire 3.6.4. Sometimes some users get stale state information, while others are successfully logged in (can message, can receive messages) but their availability doesn't propagate. It's a bizarre problem which hasn't proven easy to track down. -Nick
Hi Jay, On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
I've been seeing, for a day or three, problems where *some* pairs of users cannot get AIM to admit to one another that they exist.
Within the past 48 hours, I've seen problems with the AOL Transit Data Network (atdn.net). I'm not sure if this is related to your AIM issue.
I can talk to S, S can talk to J, but when J and I add one another to our buddy lists, we each see the other user as off-line, and cannot message them.
Client is Pidgin 2.5.1 on Windows, and some other version, possibly, on Linux.
Just now, I've had J send me a message, but she *still* doesn't show up in my buddy list where I added her. Spelling doublechecked, etc.
Anyone know of any internal problems with AIM this week?
-- William R. Lorenz
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