I think that is a good idea, however, personally I preferr one list for all outages. For the most part I have not seen an outages for game servers, and things that are not really business related (at least for me). It's helpful to see/hear about localized carrier outages as well as larger outages all in one spot. Just my $0.02! - Chris On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org> wrote:

Justin Shore wrote:

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Gadi Evron wrote:

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Perhaps outages@ has matured enough for some guidelines to be written?

That's certainly a possibility.  Perhaps there should be different outages lists for different types of outages.  That could be a good way to maintain the integrity of the original Outages list, keeping the fluff off that list but still make it available on other lists.

When I think of the Outages list I think of outages to major components of the Internet infrastructure such as IXPs, DNS root servers, major carrier failures, etc.  I would expand that to cover major data center, carrier hotel, wire center/CO hits too.  That's what I expect to see on the current Outages list.  I suppose there could be an outages list for other things though such as gaming servers/services (major ones like what the gaming companies themselves host such as WoW); major website outages such as Google, CNN or Facebook; application outages such as instant messaging, Vonage, Google Voice, etc.  Those would be good candidates for new outage lists.  Letting this kind of stuff on Outages would be like turning NANOG into a general tech support list; not a good thing.

It's a thought.  Justin

Just changing the subject so folks can participate in this discussion.

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