Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://apnews.com over IPv4? If IPv6 is used it seems to work fine but if IPv4 is used occasionally we're confronted by a custom Google 404 error page. Sometimes you can get the 404, refresh, get the expected/full APNews site, refresh again, then get another 404. APNews seems to be protected/hosted through Google's Project Shield. We're in the Mountain West region (Wyoming/Montana) and I have validated this using our own network (AS4474), Charter (Formerly Bresnan)/AS33588, AT&T cellular/AS20057, and CenturyLink/AS209 across multiple browsers and multiple devices with the same results. All devices across the various networks are resolving "apnews.com" to 34.96.67.30. We have a couple different connections to Google ASN15169 in different cities which I've tried to shift the egress traffic from our network towards 34.96.0.0/17 between the various Google datacenters we're connected to but it didn't seem to help. I did raise a "Reachability" ticket on our Google ISP portal for their NOC to investigate, was just curious how widespread this might be since none of the "usual" indicators like downdetector seem to be indicating a widespread issue at least not that I could see. Google Cloud's status page also doesn't seem to indicate any active issues, granted Project Shield is not explicitly mentioned there. Thank you, Erik Ogren Network Administrator (TCT AS4474)
downforeveryoneorjustme nope, just you. also, a Google 404 error indicates that you were trying to load the story through AMP. perhaps in the brief moments between the story being published and you loading the side, Google did not have a chance to load the AMP accelerated version of that page. —Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Erik Ogren via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote: Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://apnews.com<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apnews.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!5BieAWWkSbzDhC8YhpOiy_BzNlOTel57Td9urwf2GUVVlkRamNeE0U0dZRbsJjBwZg$> over IPv4? If IPv6 is used it seems to work fine but if IPv4 is used occasionally we’re confronted by a custom Google 404 error page. Sometimes you can get the 404, refresh, get the expected/full APNews site, refresh again, then get another 404. APNews seems to be protected/hosted through Google’s Project Shield. We’re in the Mountain West region (Wyoming/Montana) and I have validated this using our own network (AS4474), Charter (Formerly Bresnan)/AS33588, AT&T cellular/AS20057, and CenturyLink/AS209 across multiple browsers and multiple devices with the same results. All devices across the various networks are resolving “apnews.com” to 34.96.67.30. We have a couple different connections to Google ASN15169 in different cities which I’ve tried to shift the egress traffic from our network towards 34.96.0.0/17 between the various Google datacenters we’re connected to but it didn’t seem to help. I did raise a “Reachability” ticket on our Google ISP portal for their NOC to investigate, was just curious how widespread this might be since none of the “usual” indicators like downdetector seem to be indicating a widespread issue at least not that I could see. Google Cloud’s status page also doesn’t seem to indicate any active issues, granted Project Shield is not explicitly mentioned there. Thank you, Erik Ogren Network Administrator (TCT AS4474) _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages...
Most certainly not just them. It also produces the same Google 404 page for me no matter how many times I refresh. Happens across different browsers too. Coming from AS22909 ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, February 27th, 2021 at 8:51 PM, Chapman, Brad \(NBCUniversal\) via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
downforeveryoneorjustme
nope, just you. also, a Google 404 error indicates that you were trying to load the story through AMP. perhaps in the brief moments between the story being published and you loading the side, Google did not have a chance to load the AMP accelerated version of that page.
—Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 27, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Erik Ogren via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to [https://apnews.com](https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apnews.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!5BieAWWkSbzDhC8YhpOiy_BzNlOTel57Td9urwf2GUVVlkRamNeE0U0dZRbsJjBwZg$) over IPv4? If IPv6 is used it seems to work fine but if IPv4 is used occasionally we’re confronted by a custom Google 404 error page. Sometimes you can get the 404, refresh, get the expected/full APNews site, refresh again, then get another 404. APNews seems to be protected/hosted through Google’s Project Shield. We’re in the Mountain West region (Wyoming/Montana) and I have validated this using our own network (AS4474), Charter (Formerly Bresnan)/AS33588, AT&T cellular/AS20057, and CenturyLink/AS209 across multiple browsers and multiple devices with the same results. All devices across the various networks are resolving “apnews.com” to 34.96.67.30. We have a couple different connections to Google ASN15169 in different cities which I’ve tried to shift the egress traffic from our network towards 34.96.0.0/17 between the various Google datacenters we’re connected to but it didn’t seem to help. I did raise a “Reachability” ticket on our Google ISP portal for their NOC to investigate, was just curious how widespread this might be since none of the “usual” indicators like downdetector seem to be indicating a widespread issue at least not that I could see. Google Cloud’s status page also doesn’t seem to indicate any active issues, granted Project Shield is not explicitly mentioned there.
Thank you,
Erik Ogren
Network Administrator (TCT AS4474)
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Getting the same as OP -- 404 from Google landing page from AS22773 On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 9:10 PM Ryan Kearney via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:
Most certainly not just them. It also produces the same Google 404 page for me no matter how many times I refresh. Happens across different browsers too.
Coming from AS22909
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, February 27th, 2021 at 8:51 PM, Chapman, Brad \(NBCUniversal\) via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
downforeveryoneorjustme
nope, just you. also, a Google 404 error indicates that you were trying to load the story through AMP. perhaps in the brief moments between the story being published and you loading the side, Google did not have a chance to load the AMP accelerated version of that page.
—Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 27, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Erik Ogren via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://apnews.com <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apnews.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!5BieAWWkSbzDhC8YhpOiy_BzNlOTel57Td9urwf2GUVVlkRamNeE0U0dZRbsJjBwZg$> over IPv4? If IPv6 is used it seems to work fine but if IPv4 is used occasionally we’re confronted by a custom Google 404 error page. Sometimes you can get the 404, refresh, get the expected/full APNews site, refresh again, then get another 404. APNews seems to be protected/hosted through Google’s Project Shield. We’re in the Mountain West region (Wyoming/Montana) and I have validated this using our own network (AS4474), Charter (Formerly Bresnan)/AS33588, AT&T cellular/AS20057, and CenturyLink/AS209 across multiple browsers and multiple devices with the same results. All devices across the various networks are resolving “ apnews.com” to 34.96.67.30. We have a couple different connections to Google ASN15169 in different cities which I’ve tried to shift the egress traffic from our network towards 34.96.0.0/17 between the various Google datacenters we’re connected to but it didn’t seem to help. I did raise a “Reachability” ticket on our Google ISP portal for their NOC to investigate, was just curious how widespread this might be since none of the “usual” indicators like downdetector seem to be indicating a widespread issue at least not that I could see. Google Cloud’s status page also doesn’t seem to indicate any active issues, granted Project Shield is not explicitly mentioned there.
Thank you,
Erik Ogren
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Confirming fine in Perth, Australia: ~ diff <(curl -s6 https://apnews.com) <(curl -s4 https://apnews.com) ~ AS4764 ________________________________ From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> on behalf of Erik Ogren via Outages <outages@outages.org> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 10:36 AM To: outages@outages.org <outages@outages.org> Subject: [outages] IPv4 Issues Accessing apnews.com Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://apnews.com over IPv4? If IPv6 is used it seems to work fine but if IPv4 is used occasionally we’re confronted by a custom Google 404 error page. Sometimes you can get the 404, refresh, get the expected/full APNews site, refresh again, then get another 404. APNews seems to be protected/hosted through Google’s Project Shield. We’re in the Mountain West region (Wyoming/Montana) and I have validated this using our own network (AS4474), Charter (Formerly Bresnan)/AS33588, AT&T cellular/AS20057, and CenturyLink/AS209 across multiple browsers and multiple devices with the same results. All devices across the various networks are resolving “apnews.com” to 34.96.67.30. We have a couple different connections to Google ASN15169 in different cities which I’ve tried to shift the egress traffic from our network towards 34.96.0.0/17 between the various Google datacenters we’re connected to but it didn’t seem to help. I did raise a “Reachability” ticket on our Google ISP portal for their NOC to investigate, was just curious how widespread this might be since none of the “usual” indicators like downdetector seem to be indicating a widespread issue at least not that I could see. Google Cloud’s status page also doesn’t seem to indicate any active issues, granted Project Shield is not explicitly mentioned there. Thank you, Erik Ogren Network Administrator (TCT AS4474)
Seems to be working fine from here (Southeast Tennessee), accessing it from 108.85.43.0/24. AT&T residential fiber. On Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 21:42 Erik Ogren via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://apnews.com over IPv4? If IPv6 is used it seems to work fine but if IPv4 is used occasionally we’re confronted by a custom Google 404 error page. Sometimes you can get the 404, refresh, get the expected/full APNews site, refresh again, then get another 404. APNews seems to be protected/hosted through Google’s Project Shield. We’re in the Mountain West region (Wyoming/Montana) and I have validated this using our own network (AS4474), Charter (Formerly Bresnan)/AS33588, AT&T cellular/AS20057, and CenturyLink/AS209 across multiple browsers and multiple devices with the same results. All devices across the various networks are resolving “apnews.com” to 34.96.67.30. We have a couple different connections to Google ASN15169 in different cities which I’ve tried to shift the egress traffic from our network towards 34.96.0.0/17 between the various Google datacenters we’re connected to but it didn’t seem to help. I did raise a “Reachability” ticket on our Google ISP portal for their NOC to investigate, was just curious how widespread this might be since none of the “usual” indicators like downdetector seem to be indicating a widespread issue at least not that I could see. Google Cloud’s status page also doesn’t seem to indicate any active issues, granted Project Shield is not explicitly mentioned there.
Thank you,
Erik Ogren
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I can second those symptoms. Google-style 404 page on IPv4, normal page on IPv6. AS 20115. South central MN, Charter/Spectrum. From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> On Behalf Of Erik Ogren via Outages Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 20:36 To: outages@outages.org Subject: [outages] IPv4 Issues Accessing apnews.com Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://apnews.com over IPv4? If IPv6 is used it seems to work fine but if IPv4 is used occasionally we're confronted by a custom Google 404 error page. Sometimes you can get the 404, refresh, get the expected/full APNews site, refresh again, then get another 404. APNews seems to be protected/hosted through Google's Project Shield. We're in the Mountain West region (Wyoming/Montana) and I have validated this using our own network (AS4474), Charter (Formerly Bresnan)/AS33588, AT&T cellular/AS20057, and CenturyLink/AS209 across multiple browsers and multiple devices with the same results. All devices across the various networks are resolving "apnews.com" to 34.96.67.30. We have a couple different connections to Google ASN15169 in different cities which I've tried to shift the egress traffic from our network towards 34.96.0.0/17 between the various Google datacenters we're connected to but it didn't seem to help. I did raise a "Reachability" ticket on our Google ISP portal for their NOC to investigate, was just curious how widespread this might be since none of the "usual" indicators like downdetector seem to be indicating a widespread issue at least not that I could see. Google Cloud's status page also doesn't seem to indicate any active issues, granted Project Shield is not explicitly mentioned there. Thank you, Erik Ogren Network Administrator (TCT AS4474)
I see “google-site-verification” in the TXT records for apnews. Maybe it’s DNS? [cid:49B77D65-E636-4B80-ADC9-781A1E87607F-L0-001] —Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2021, at 7:16 PM, Nathan Engelhardt via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote: I can second those symptoms. Google-style 404 page on IPv4, normal page on IPv6. AS 20115. South central MN, Charter/Spectrum. From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> On Behalf Of Erik Ogren via Outages Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 20:36 To: outages@outages.org Subject: [outages] IPv4 Issues Accessing apnews.com Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://apnews.com<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apnews.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!_X1A1Ebki-n_UduRFV2UFR0S9SwuvaUzVzQAzI-U8OFrsTYvHQgjqh4Eapk14ghCRg$> over IPv4? If IPv6 is used it seems to work fine but if IPv4 is used occasionally we’re confronted by a custom Google 404 error page. Sometimes you can get the 404, refresh, get the expected/full APNews site, refresh again, then get another 404. APNews seems to be protected/hosted through Google’s Project Shield. We’re in the Mountain West region (Wyoming/Montana) and I have validated this using our own network (AS4474), Charter (Formerly Bresnan)/AS33588, AT&T cellular/AS20057, and CenturyLink/AS209 across multiple browsers and multiple devices with the same results. All devices across the various networks are resolving “apnews.com” to 34.96.67.30. We have a couple different connections to Google ASN15169 in different cities which I’ve tried to shift the egress traffic from our network towards 34.96.0.0/17 between the various Google datacenters we’re connected to but it didn’t seem to help. I did raise a “Reachability” ticket on our Google ISP portal for their NOC to investigate, was just curious how widespread this might be since none of the “usual” indicators like downdetector seem to be indicating a widespread issue at least not that I could see. Google Cloud’s status page also doesn’t seem to indicate any active issues, granted Project Shield is not explicitly mentioned there. Thank you, Erik Ogren Network Administrator (TCT AS4474) _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages...
On 2/27/21 18:36, Erik Oregon via Outages wrote:
Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://apnews.com <https://apnews.com> over IPv4?
Seeing problems from western Oregon, origin AS 11404. Seeing Google 404 page. Actual page occasionally loads when refreshing. -- Jay Hennigan - jay@west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV
It’s happening intermittently for me now on a mobile browser from Spectrum as I refresh Not happening over ATT Cellular. —Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 27, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Jay Hennigan via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
On 2/27/21 18:36, Erik Oregon via Outages wrote:
Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apnews.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!8-9Ig0dVAi... <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apnews.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!8-9Ig0dVAi... > over IPv4?
Seeing problems from western Oregon, origin AS 11404. Seeing Google 404 page. Actual page occasionally loads when refreshing.
-- Jay Hennigan - jay@west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages...
Same on GCI/Alaska. On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 7:56 PM Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:
It’s happening intermittently for me now on a mobile browser from Spectrum as I refresh Not happening over ATT Cellular.
—Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 27, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Jay Hennigan via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:
On 2/27/21 18:36, Erik Oregon via Outages wrote:
Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apnews.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!8-9Ig0dVAi... < https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apnews.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!8-9Ig0dVAi... over IPv4?
Seeing problems from western Oregon, origin AS 11404. Seeing Google 404 page. Actual page occasionally loads when refreshing.
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Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) -
Erik Ogren -
Jay Hennigan -
Jeremy Gault, KD4NED (Senior Engineer) -
Jett Jackson -
Jim Harton -
Luke Lusardi -
Nathan Engelhardt -
Ryan Kearney