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Exercise caution when clicking links, opening attachments or taking further action, before validating its authenticity. I have OOBM units in Troy and Christiansburg (Ohio). Looks like it was only 2 hours long. Thu Feb 22 05:32:45 2024 green 2:49:16 Thu Feb 22 03:46:54 2024 red 1:45:51 Wed Feb 21 21:58:49 2024 green 5:48:05 On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:04 AM Jim O'Brien via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Out here I. The southern suburbs of Boston _______________________________ Jim O'Brien Alianza - Vice President Server Engineering Northeastern - Adjunct Faculty Wentworth - Adjunct Faculty Email: jimdoesvoip@gmail.com<mailto:jimdoesvoip@gmail.com> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:00 AM Edward Vielmetti via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Looking at Down Detector which has a big spike in reported ATT cellular outages. https://downdetector.com/status/att/<https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://downdetector.com/status/att/___.YXAzOmNvbXBsZXRlOmE6bzo5ZDdlZjI1ODAwYzBmYzUxOGZkYTk1NTczMDM1MjI2ODo2OjllYTc6YjQwMTRiODE0YTQ0YjE1OTJiZDA3YWIzMDFjODdhMDkwZjgyYjBhZWJkMTRkOTkzMjExNjBiYWNhODQ1YjlkNDpoOlQ> The Reuters story says this has affected cellular 911 calls in San Francisco, among other places https://www.reuters.com/technology/cellular-outage-us-hits-att-t-mobile-verizon-users-downdetector-shows-2024-02-22/<https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://www.reuters.com/technology/cellular-outage-us-hits-att-t-mobile-verizon-users-downdetector-shows-2024-02-22/___.YXAzOmNvbXBsZXRlOmE6bzo5ZDdlZjI1ODAwYzBmYzUxOGZkYTk1NTczMDM1MjI2ODo2OjZmZDY6YjMzYWE0NThkNzMyOGE3YTQ5NjhkZTE1OTUwNzllMzc1ZDBiNjVhYjdkZGFmMzRhNWIwMmM3N2MzYjA4YzZkNzpoOlQ> Feb 22 (Reuters) - A cellular outage early on Thursday hit thousands of AT&T (T.N), opens new tab<https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://www.reuters.com/markets/companies/T.N___.YXAzOmNvbXBsZXRlOmE6bzo5ZDdlZjI1ODAwYzBmYzUxOGZkYTk1NTczMDM1MjI2ODo2OjE5YTA6MzY0ZTgwNzM1NThlMjdhN2I4OTI3Y2ZhYjNjMzM3ZjZjZTI3ZDY5NWQ3MDI2NTg2ZWUxYjhmNjZmOTViNjVmMTpoOlQ> users in the United States, disrupting calls and text messages as well as emergency services in major cities including San Francisco. -- I haven’t seen any reporting beyond the “it’s down” status. 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Up in Memphis, TN but other AT&T customers are down. On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:06 AM Jim Harton via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:

AT&T Cellular and Data down in Northwest Arkansas (Bentonville, Rogers, Bella Vista) confirmed by me while driving this morning.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:05 AM Rob Repp via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:

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ATT cell service is completely down in Chicagoland, including the city and North Shore. Tks, R.

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On Feb 22, 2024, at 6:58 AM, Edward Vielmetti via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:

Looking at Down Detector which has a big spike in reported ATT cellular outages.

https://downdetector.com/status/att/

The Reuters story says this has affected cellular 911 calls in San Francisco, among other places

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cellular-outage-us-hits-att-t-mobile-veri...

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I haven’t seen any reporting beyond the “it’s down” status.

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Correction. It’s down now Sent from my iPhone On Feb 22, 2024, at 8:11 AM, Steve MacKerell <steve.mackerell@relativity.com> wrote:  I’m in Chicago western suburbs and AT&T cell is still up for me Sent from my iPhone On Feb 22, 2024, at 8:08 AM, Max Leonard via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:  Up in Memphis, TN but other AT&T customers are down. On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:06 AM Jim Harton via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: AT&T Cellular and Data down in Northwest Arkansas (Bentonville, Rogers, Bella Vista) confirmed by me while driving this morning. On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:05 AM Rob Repp via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: ATT cell service is completely down in Chicagoland, including the city and North Shore. Tks, R. <WPSD36_DO_Icon_4C_sm.png> Rob Repp Network Administrator Winnetka Public Schools District 36 robrepp@winnetka36.org<mailto:robrepp@winnetka36.org> 847.501.2848 "Conatus es pausa et denuo initus?” On Feb 22, 2024, at 6:58 AM, Edward Vielmetti via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Looking at Down Detector which has a big spike in reported ATT cellular outages. https://downdetector.com/status/att/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://downdetector.com/status/att/__;!!K-o5ptmh!1jxHkWxNOBRnH6cnR-qkVFZ58WyOLqaQEMDql4ucRPSTAp0E6UqD1_R7jhpFMSZgFRUt8iamY1VJtoJh7ZnWlOOung$> The Reuters story says this has affected cellular 911 calls in San Francisco, among other places https://www.reuters.com/technology/cellular-outage-us-hits-att-t-mobile-verizon-users-downdetector-shows-2024-02-22/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.reuters.com/technology/cellular-outage-us-hits-att-t-mobile-verizon-users-downdetector-shows-2024-02-22/__;!!K-o5ptmh!1jxHkWxNOBRnH6cnR-qkVFZ58WyOLqaQEMDql4ucRPSTAp0E6UqD1_R7jhpFMSZgFRUt8iamY1VJtoJh7ZltH5oMaQ$> Feb 22 (Reuters) - A cellular outage early on Thursday hit thousands of AT&T (T.N), opens new tab<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.reuters.com/markets/companies/T.N__;!!K-o5ptmh!1jxHkWxNOBRnH6cnR-qkVFZ58WyOLqaQEMDql4ucRPSTAp0E6UqD1_R7jhpFMSZgFRUt8iamY1VJtoJh7ZktEPeJWg$> users in the United States, disrupting calls and text messages as well as emergency services in major cities including San Francisco. -- I haven’t seen any reporting beyond the “it’s down” status. Thanks Ed _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org<mailto:Outages@outages.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages__;!!K-o5ptmh!1jxHkWxNOBRnH6cnR-qkVFZ58WyOLqaQEMDql4ucRPSTAp0E6UqD1_R7jhpFMSZgFRUt8iamY1VJtoJh7ZkUA5-IdA$> Tech Support Help Desk: * help@winnetka36.org<mailto:help@winnetka36.org> _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org<mailto:Outages@outages.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages__;!!K-o5ptmh!1jxHkWxNOBRnH6cnR-qkVFZ58WyOLqaQEMDql4ucRPSTAp0E6UqD1_R7jhpFMSZgFRUt8iamY1VJtoJh7ZkUA5-IdA$> _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org<mailto:Outages@outages.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages__;!!K-o5ptmh!1jxHkWxNOBRnH6cnR-qkVFZ58WyOLqaQEMDql4ucRPSTAp0E6UqD1_R7jhpFMSZgFRUt8iamY1VJtoJh7ZkUA5-IdA$> _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages... _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages... _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

Our whole fleet uses ATT and it seems to slowly be dropping with all of them just not at the same time.. I agree cant wait to see the post mortem Thank You, Shawn Begarowicz (Technology/Service Manager) Complete Interactive Technologies 44265 Groesbeck Highway Clinton Township, MI 48036 586-439-2000 Ext. 120 | 586-439-2001 Fax 586-913-2420 Direct Tel | 586-203-4940 Direct Fax 586-883-4037 Cell shawn.begarowicz@cit-4u.com<mailto:shawn.begarowicz@cit-4u.com> www.cit-4u.com<http://www.cit-4u.com/> For Technical Support: support@cit-4u.com<mailto:support@cit-4u.com> Website: www.cit-4u.com<http://www.cit-4u.com/> [cid:d7599b76-0bcc-4079-8b28-099879af27e6] Celebrating 30 Years of your VISION our SOLUTION The information contained in this message is confidential and, if addressed to a client or certain counsel, is subject to the attorney-client or work-product privilege, and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please reply or notify us immediately by email or telephone, and destroy or erase the message. Please think twice before printing out this email! ________________________________ From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> on behalf of Jeremy Gault (KD4NED) via Outages <outages@outages.org> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 9:09 AM To: Rob Repp <robrepp@winnetka36.org> Cc: OUTAGES Mailing List <outages@outages.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. One thing I have noticed: At least in some affected areas, it doesn’t appear to be all customers affected. For example, my phone and tablet have no service, but my watch will connect to LTE just fine and place and receive calls. Likewise, a buddy of mine came by here, and his phones have full 5G service on AT&T. I’ve also seen other reports of multiple AT&T phones sitting next to each other, some of them working perfectly fine, and others having no service at all. I’d love to see the postmortem on this. Jeremy _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outa... _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

I encourage my customers to always assume carriers, hardware, and software are going to fail and have backup plans/methods. Either the business pays for it before it's needed or they lose money or productivity that affects the bottom line. It's a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if the business is OK with outages we do not need backup/redundancy. But if we are out for x hours it will cost y dollars. What's your business decision: pay for redundancy/backup or be ok with outages? Redundancy is not necessarily a technical issue; it is a business issue. ;) On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:38 AM Lederer, Linda via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:

We use a fleet tracking service called Samsara which uses ATT – so this has been lovely….

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Our whole fleet uses ATT and it seems to slowly be dropping with all of them just not at the same time.. I agree cant wait to see the post mortem

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One thing I have noticed: At least in some affected areas, it doesn’t appear to be all customers affected. For example, my phone and tablet have no service, but my watch will connect to LTE just fine and place and receive calls.

Likewise, a buddy of mine came by here, and his phones have full 5G service on AT&T. I’ve also seen other reports of multiple AT&T phones sitting next to each other, some of them working perfectly fine, and others having no service at all.

I’d love to see the postmortem on this.

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Negative not even a RFO or what's happening. But they have all hands-on deck.. The RFO will be interesting.. Thank You, Shawn Begarowicz (Technology/Service Manager) Complete Interactive Technologies 44265 Groesbeck Highway Clinton Township, MI 48036 586-439-2000 Ext. 120 | 586-439-2001 Fax 586-913-2420 Direct Tel | 586-203-4940 Direct Fax 586-883-4037 Cell shawn.begarowicz@cit-4u.com<mailto:shawn.begarowicz@cit-4u.com> www.cit-4u.com<http://www.cit-4u.com/> For Technical Support: support@cit-4u.com<mailto:support@cit-4u.com> Website: www.cit-4u.com<http://www.cit-4u.com/> [cid:45dc7f98-0d87-4d33-b180-597807c44709] Celebrating 30 Years of your VISION our SOLUTION The information contained in this message is confidential and, if addressed to a client or certain counsel, is subject to the attorney-client or work-product privilege, and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. 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Agreed! After reading through more lines of someone’s extremely obnoxious email signature than actual discussion in this thread, it seems like there is a huge amount of panic associated with this. Yes, it sucks that outages happen, and they shouldn’t happen… but cell service is a best effort offering and we cannot control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack thereof). Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If your cell phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a second SIM on another carrier. Even if it’s just a cheap prepaid SIM on an MVNO that doesn’t use the same underlying carrier… It’s cheap insurance to keep you connected. On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:  Remember. This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained by humans. 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Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all seems like speculation at this point. On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:

Modern phones don’t use hardware sims to the best of my knowledge, using e-sims instead.

(Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim in case you need to work with a backwards carrier).

I’ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT, Verizon, and T-Mo which account for the vast majority of licensed spectrum in the US. (Basically all three primary carriers and thus likely every MVNO as well (several of them were also mentioned).

An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case.

Owen

On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:

 Agreed!

After reading through more lines of someone’s extremely obnoxious email signature than actual discussion in this thread, it seems like there is a huge amount of panic associated with this. Yes, it sucks that outages happen, and they shouldn’t happen… but cell service is a best effort offering and we cannot control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack thereof).

Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If your cell phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a second SIM on another carrier. Even if it’s just a cheap prepaid SIM on an MVNO that doesn’t use the same underlying carrier… It’s cheap insurance to keep you connected.

On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:



Remember. This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained by humans. At least for now….. 😊

-richey

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I encourage my customers to always assume carriers, hardware, and software are going to fail and have backup plans/methods. Either the business pays for it before it's needed or they lose money or productivity that affects the bottom line. It's a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if the business is OK with outages we do not need backup/redundancy. But if we are out for x hours it will cost y dollars. What's your business decision: pay for redundancy/backup or be ok with outages? Redundancy is not necessarily a technical issue; it is a business issue.

;)

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We use a fleet tracking service called Samsara which uses ATT – so this has been lovely….

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Our whole fleet uses ATT and it seems to slowly be dropping with all of them just not at the same time.. I agree cant wait to see the post mortem

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One thing I have noticed: At least in some affected areas, it doesn’t appear to be all customers affected. For example, my phone and tablet have no service, but my watch will connect to LTE just fine and place and receive calls.

Likewise, a buddy of mine came by here, and his phones have full 5G service on AT&T. I’ve also seen other reports of multiple AT&T phones sitting next to each other, some of them working perfectly fine, and others having no service at all.

I’d love to see the postmortem on this.

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Verizon did have reports of network issues this morning for a time, where it seemed their HLR (where SIM cards register to on the network) was being flooded by AT&T devices attempting to register on their network (which is what cellular devices will do when it can’t register). But it cleared up quickly. Other reports of T-Mobile/Verizon outages appear to just be users who can’t contact AT&T users. Sterling Jaynes Director of IT Operations From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> On Behalf Of Jim Harton via Outages Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 12:25 PM To: Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> Cc: outages <outages@outages.org> Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 ** This email was received outside the organization and contains one or more web links. Use caution when following links as they could open malicious web sites. ** A lot of the individuals who claimed to have service issues (at least locally) using TMO and VZW claimed that because they were attempting to call individuals on AT&T. In two cases of individuals I talked to they had full voice and data. I haven't seen any confirmation on other providers being down, and VZW put out a statement stating they were aware of "another carrier" being down, but they were unaffected. Example from news:

Verizon said Thursday morning that the outages are not affecting its network directly, only customers trying to reach another carrier. T-Mobile also said early Thursday that the network didn't suffer an outage and is operating normally, and Downdetector numbers likely reflect customers attempting to reach users on other networks.

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t-mobile-customers-hit-widespread-cellular-outages-us-rcna139938<https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t-mobile-customers-hit-widespread-cellular-outages-us-rcna139938> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:44 AM Josh Luthman via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all seems like speculation at this point. On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Modern phones don’t use hardware sims to the best of my knowledge, using e-sims instead. (Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim in case you need to work with a backwards carrier). I’ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT, Verizon, and T-Mo which account for the vast majority of licensed spectrum in the US. (Basically all three primary carriers and thus likely every MVNO as well (several of them were also mentioned). An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case. Owen On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote:  Agreed! After reading through more lines of someone’s extremely obnoxious email signature than actual discussion in this thread, it seems like there is a huge amount of panic associated with this. Yes, it sucks that outages happen, and they shouldn’t happen… but cell service is a best effort offering and we cannot control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack thereof). Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If your cell phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a second SIM on another carrier. Even if it’s just a cheap prepaid SIM on an MVNO that doesn’t use the same underlying carrier… It’s cheap insurance to keep you connected. On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote:  Remember. This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained by humans. At least for now….. 😊 -richey From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org<mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org>> on behalf of Kenny Sallee via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> Date: Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 10:22 AM To: Lederer, Linda <llederer@quakervalleyfoods.com<mailto:llederer@quakervalleyfoods.com>> Cc: outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 I encourage my customers to always assume carriers, hardware, and software are going to fail and have backup plans/methods. Either the business pays for it before it's needed or they lose money or productivity that affects the bottom line. It's a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if the business is OK with outages we do not need backup/redundancy. But if we are out for x hours it will cost y dollars. What's your business decision: pay for redundancy/backup or be ok with outages? Redundancy is not necessarily a technical issue; it is a business issue. ;) On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:38 AM Lederer, Linda via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: We use a fleet tracking service called Samsara which uses ATT – so this has been lovely…. 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For example, my phone and tablet have no service, but my watch will connect to LTE just fine and place and receive calls. Likewise, a buddy of mine came by here, and his phones have full 5G service on AT&T. I’ve also seen other reports of multiple AT&T phones sitting next to each other, some of them working perfectly fine, and others having no service at all. I’d love to see the postmortem on this. 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This is just one of numerous reports: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t-mobile-customers-hit-widesp... Thanks, John From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> on behalf of Michael B. Williams via Outages <outages@outages.org> Date: Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 1:45 PM To: Sterling Jaynes <sterling.jaynes@mactexas.com> Cc: outages <outages@outages.org> Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 ​Has anyone been able to verify if there was an AT&T network outage this morning as I have had issues on my AT&T devices. [https://mailtrack.io/trace/mail/w/b3V0YWdlc0BvdXRhZ2VzLm9yZw/2e6a7364207930a...] _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

Extremely unlikely. We did have a X1.7 class flare 12 hours before the event but the amount of disruption that would cause would be almost negligible. It would only really affect satellite communications and anything using ionospheric skip, and considering the intensity, not for a long period of time. This just seems like paranoia and attempting to find correlation where there is none. On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 12:46 PM Jeff Martinez via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1760684323563602279

I don’t buy it!

JM

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Verizon did have reports of network issues this morning for a time, where it seemed their HLR (where SIM cards register to on the network) was being flooded by AT&T devices attempting to register on their network (which is what cellular devices will do when it can’t register). But it cleared up quickly.

Other reports of T-Mobile/Verizon outages appear to just be users who can’t contact AT&T users.

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A lot of the individuals who claimed to have service issues (at least locally) using TMO and VZW claimed that because they were attempting to call individuals on AT&T. In two cases of individuals I talked to they had full voice and data. I haven't seen any confirmation on other providers being down, and VZW put out a statement stating they were aware of "another carrier" being down, but they were unaffected.

Example from news:

...

Verizon said Thursday morning that the outages are not affecting its network directly, only customers trying to reach another carrier.

...

T-Mobile also said early Thursday that the network didn't suffer an outage and is operating normally, and Downdetector numbers likely reflect customers attempting to reach users on other networks.

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t-mobile-customers-hit-widesp...

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:44 AM Josh Luthman via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:

Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all seems like speculation at this point.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:

Modern phones don’t use hardware sims to the best of my knowledge, using e-sims instead.

(Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim in case you need to work with a backwards carrier).

I’ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT, Verizon, and T-Mo which account for the vast majority of licensed spectrum in the US. (Basically all three primary carriers and thus likely every MVNO as well (several of them were also mentioned).

An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case.

Owen

On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:

 Agreed!

After reading through more lines of someone’s extremely obnoxious email signature than actual discussion in this thread, it seems like there is a huge amount of panic associated with this. Yes, it sucks that outages happen, and they shouldn’t happen… but cell service is a best effort offering and we cannot control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack thereof).

Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If your cell phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a second SIM on another carrier. Even if it’s just a cheap prepaid SIM on an MVNO that doesn’t use the same underlying carrier… It’s cheap insurance to keep you connected.

On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:



Remember. This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained by humans. At least for now….. 😊

-richey

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I encourage my customers to always assume carriers, hardware, and software are going to fail and have backup plans/methods. Either the business pays for it before it's needed or they lose money or productivity that affects the bottom line. It's a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if the business is OK with outages we do not need backup/redundancy. But if we are out for x hours it will cost y dollars. What's your business decision: pay for redundancy/backup or be ok with outages? Redundancy is not necessarily a technical issue; it is a business issue.

;)

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We use a fleet tracking service called Samsara which uses ATT – so this has been lovely….

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Our whole fleet uses ATT and it seems to slowly be dropping with all of them just not at the same time.. I agree cant wait to see the post mortem

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One thing I have noticed: At least in some affected areas, it doesn’t appear to be all customers affected. For example, my phone and tablet have no service, but my watch will connect to LTE just fine and place and receive calls.

Likewise, a buddy of mine came by here, and his phones have full 5G service on AT&T. I’ve also seen other reports of multiple AT&T phones sitting next to each other, some of them working perfectly fine, and others having no service at all.

I’d love to see the postmortem on this.

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sadly not suprised by some jumping to conclusions like this. some groups have been hyping doom and gloom scenarios about solar weather recently, so makes sense they'd use this coincidence to further their narratives Bruce Orcutt UTSA Libraries: Systems (210) 458- 6192 ________________________________ From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> on behalf of Jeff Shultz via Outages <outages@outages.org> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 12:58:23 PM To: outages@outages.org <outages@outages.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 **EXTERNAL EMAIL** This email originated outside of The University of Texas at San Antonio. Please exercise caution when clicking on links or opening attachments. There were two flares - an X1.7 and an X1.8. No CME's though, so we aren't going to get smacked by that. https://spaceweather.com/ On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 10:55 AM David Eddleman via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Extremely unlikely. We did have a X1.7 class flare 12 hours before the event but the amount of disruption that would cause would be almost negligible. It would only really affect satellite communications and anything using ionospheric skip, and considering the intensity, not for a long period of time. This just seems like paranoia and attempting to find correlation where there is none. On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 12:46 PM Jeff Martinez via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: https://twitter.com/i/status/1760684323563602279 I don’t buy it! JM -- Jeff Shultz Central Office Technician SCTC Like us on Social Media for News, Promotions, and other information!! [https://cdn0.iconfinder.com/data/icons/free-social-media-set/24/facebook-32....] <https://www.facebook.com/SCTCWEB/> [https://www.instagram.com/sctc_sctc/] <https://www.instagram.com/sctc_sctc/> [https://cdn2.iconfinder.com/data/icons/social-media-2142/192/Yelp-32.png] <https://www.yelp.com/biz/sctc-stayton-3> [https://cdn3.iconfinder.com/data/icons/free-social-icons/67/youtube_circle_c...] <https://www.youtube.com/c/sctcvideos> *** This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. *** _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

There have been numerous articles on it, including by AP & Reuters: https://apnews.com/article/cellular-att-verizon-tmobile-outage-02d8dfd93019e... https://www.reuters.com/technology/cellular-outage-us-hits-att-t-mobile-veri... If you don’t trust newswire agencies like AP/Reuters, then you have a different problem entirely. And here it is directly from the horse’s mouth: https://about.att.com/pages/network-update -- Christopher Conley Systems Administrator | Fors Marsh 4250 N Fairfax Dr, Suite 520 Arlington, VA 22203 From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> On Behalf Of Michael B. Williams via Outages Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 2:32 PM To: Bruce Orcutt <Bruce.Orcutt@utsa.edu> Cc: outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 ​To be clear, I didn't jump to conclusions; I simply asked if anyone had proof of the outage actually occurring today. I admit my services were affected but wanted to see if there is any impercial evidence other than my own of the outage. The content of this email is confidential and intended for the recipient specified in message only. It is strictly forbidden to share any part of this message with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur in the future. _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

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Verizon said Thursday morning that the outages are not affecting its network directly, only customers trying to reach another carrier. T-Mobile also said early Thursday that the network didn't suffer an outage and is operating normally, and Downdetector numbers likely reflect customers attempting to reach users on other networks.

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t-mobile-customers-hit-widesp... On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:44 AM Josh Luthman via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all seems like speculation at this point. On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Modern phones don’t use hardware sims to the best of my knowledge, using e-sims instead. (Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim in case you need to work with a backwards carrier). I’ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT, Verizon, and T-Mo which account for the vast majority of licensed spectrum in the US. (Basically all three primary carriers and thus likely every MVNO as well (several of them were also mentioned). An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case. Owen On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote:  Agreed! After reading through more lines of someone’s extremely obnoxious email signature than actual discussion in this thread, it seems like there is a huge amount of panic associated with this. Yes, it sucks that outages happen, and they shouldn’t happen… but cell service is a best effort offering and we cannot control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack thereof). Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If your cell phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a second SIM on another carrier. Even if it’s just a cheap prepaid SIM on an MVNO that doesn’t use the same underlying carrier… It’s cheap insurance to keep you connected. On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote:  Remember. This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained by humans. At least for now….. 😊 -richey From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org<mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org>> on behalf of Kenny Sallee via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> Date: Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 10:22 AM To: Lederer, Linda <llederer@quakervalleyfoods.com<mailto:llederer@quakervalleyfoods.com>> Cc: outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 I encourage my customers to always assume carriers, hardware, and software are going to fail and have backup plans/methods. Either the business pays for it before it's needed or they lose money or productivity that affects the bottom line. It's a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if the business is OK with outages we do not need backup/redundancy. But if we are out for x hours it will cost y dollars. What's your business decision: pay for redundancy/backup or be ok with outages? 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For example, my phone and tablet have no service, but my watch will connect to LTE just fine and place and receive calls. Likewise, a buddy of mine came by here, and his phones have full 5G service on AT&T. I’ve also seen other reports of multiple AT&T phones sitting next to each other, some of them working perfectly fine, and others having no service at all. I’d love to see the postmortem on this. 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That is bull. I'm a HAM and we have had R3's many times and nothing like that happened.  She has no clue.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 1:01 PM Lederer, Linda via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:

Haha neither do I but look at the source of that Tweet.

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I don’t buy it!

JM

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Verizon did have reports of network issues this morning for a time, where it seemed their HLR (where SIM cards register to on the network) was being flooded by AT&T devices attempting to register on their network (which is what cellular devices will do when it can’t register). But it cleared up quickly.

Other reports of T-Mobile/Verizon outages appear to just be users who can’t contact AT&T users.

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A lot of the individuals who claimed to have service issues (at least locally) using TMO and VZW claimed that because they were attempting to call individuals on AT&T.  In two cases of individuals I talked to they had full voice and data.  I haven't seen any confirmation on other providers being down, and VZW put out a statement stating they were aware of "another carrier" being down, but they were unaffected.

Example from news:

> Verizon said Thursday morning that the outages are not affecting its network directly, only customers trying to reach another carrier.

> T-Mobile also said early Thursday that the network didn't suffer an outage and is operating normally, and Downdetector numbers likely reflect customers attempting to reach users on other networks.

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t-mobile-customers-hit-widesp...

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:44 AM Josh Luthman via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:

Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all seems like speculation at this point.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:

Modern phones don’t use hardware sims to the best of my knowledge, using e-sims instead.

(Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim in case you need to work with a backwards carrier).

I’ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT, Verizon, and T-Mo which account for the vast majority of licensed spectrum in the US. (Basically all three primary carriers and thus likely every MVNO as well (several of them were also mentioned).

An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case.

Owen

On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:

 Agreed!

After reading through more lines of someone’s extremely obnoxious email signature than actual discussion in this thread, it seems like there is a huge amount of panic associated with this. Yes, it sucks that outages happen, and they shouldn’t happen… but cell service is a best effort offering and we cannot control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack thereof).

Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If your cell phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a second SIM on another carrier. Even if it’s just a cheap prepaid SIM on an MVNO that doesn’t use the same underlying carrier… It’s cheap insurance to keep you connected.

On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:



Remember. This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained by humans.       At least for now….. 😊

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I encourage my customers to always assume carriers, hardware, and software are going to fail and have backup plans/methods. Either the business pays for it before it's needed or they lose money or productivity that affects the bottom line.  It's a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if the business is OK with outages we do not need backup/redundancy. But if we are out for x hours it will cost y dollars.  What's your business decision: pay for redundancy/backup or be ok with outages? Redundancy is not necessarily a technical issue; it is a business issue.

;)

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We use a fleet tracking service called Samsara which uses ATT – so this has been lovely….

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Our whole fleet uses ATT and it seems to slowly be dropping with all of them just not at the same time..   I agree cant wait to see the post mortem

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One thing I have noticed: At least in some affected areas, it doesn’t appear to be all customers affected. For example, my phone and tablet have no service, but my watch will connect to LTE just fine and place and receive calls.

Likewise, a buddy of mine came by here, and his phones have full 5G service on AT&T. I’ve also seen other reports of multiple AT&T phones sitting next to each other, some of them working perfectly fine, and others having no service at all.

I’d love to see the postmortem on this.

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If only it were that simple – real Maple Syrup however would be awfully expensive to use in large quantities to shield from solar flares…. Linda Lederer IT DEPARTMENT [A picture containing object Description generated with very high confidence] 2701 Red Lion Road Philadelphia, PA 19154 Office: 215.992.0900 Ext. 238 [facebook]<http://www.facebook.com/quakervalleyfoods/>[youtube2]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5DfxpLA6aGpeCwMvrNFxFQ>[linkedin]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/quaker-valley-foods>[cid:image005.png@01DA659E.D8711A20]<http://www.quakervalleyfoods.com/> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. From: Michael B. Williams <michael.williams@glexia.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 2:45 PM To: mike tancsa <mike@sentex.net> Cc: Steele, John <john.steele@ennis.k12.tx.us>; Lederer, Linda <llederer@quakervalleyfoods.com>; outages <outages@outages.org> Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 Are you implying Maple Syrup protects against EMP? (Not financial advice) On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 6:44 AM mike tancsa via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: We were not impacted in Canada as our abundant Maple Syrup and other shielding cliches provided protection from the storm. ---Mike On 2/22/2024 2:36 PM, Steele, John via Outages wrote: That is bull. I'm a HAM and we have had R3's many times and nothing like that happened. She has no clue. On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 1:01 PM Lederer, Linda via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Haha neither do I but look at the source of that Tweet. 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From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org<mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org>> On Behalf Of Jeff Martinez via Outages Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 1:45 PM To: Sterling Jaynes <sterling.jaynes@mactexas.com<mailto:sterling.jaynes@mactexas.com>>; Jim Harton <jim@cybersweat.shop><mailto:jim@cybersweat.shop>; Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com>> Cc: outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 https://twitter.com/i/status/1760684323563602279 I don’t buy it! JM From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org<mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org>> On Behalf Of Sterling Jaynes via Outages Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 12:29 PM To: Jim Harton <jim@cybersweat.shop<mailto:jim@cybersweat.shop>>; Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com>> Cc: outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 Verizon did have reports of network issues this morning for a time, where it seemed their HLR (where SIM cards register to on the network) was being flooded by AT&T devices attempting to register on their network (which is what cellular devices will do when it can’t register). But it cleared up quickly. Other reports of T-Mobile/Verizon outages appear to just be users who can’t contact AT&T users. Sterling Jaynes Director of IT Operations From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org<mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org>> On Behalf Of Jim Harton via Outages Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 12:25 PM To: Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com>> Cc: outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 ** This email was received outside the organization and contains one or more web links. Use caution when following links as they could open malicious web sites. ** A lot of the individuals who claimed to have service issues (at least locally) using TMO and VZW claimed that because they were attempting to call individuals on AT&T. In two cases of individuals I talked to they had full voice and data. I haven't seen any confirmation on other providers being down, and VZW put out a statement stating they were aware of "another carrier" being down, but they were unaffected. Example from news:

Verizon said Thursday morning that the outages are not affecting its network directly, only customers trying to reach another carrier. T-Mobile also said early Thursday that the network didn't suffer an outage and is operating normally, and Downdetector numbers likely reflect customers attempting to reach users on other networks.

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t-mobile-customers-hit-widesp... On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:44 AM Josh Luthman via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all seems like speculation at this point. On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Modern phones don’t use hardware sims to the best of my knowledge, using e-sims instead. (Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim in case you need to work with a backwards carrier). I’ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT, Verizon, and T-Mo which account for the vast majority of licensed spectrum in the US. (Basically all three primary carriers and thus likely every MVNO as well (several of them were also mentioned). An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case. Owen On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote:  Agreed! After reading through more lines of someone’s extremely obnoxious email signature than actual discussion in this thread, it seems like there is a huge amount of panic associated with this. Yes, it sucks that outages happen, and they shouldn’t happen… but cell service is a best effort offering and we cannot control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack thereof). Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If your cell phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a second SIM on another carrier. Even if it’s just a cheap prepaid SIM on an MVNO that doesn’t use the same underlying carrier… It’s cheap insurance to keep you connected. On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote:  Remember. This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained by humans. At least for now….. 😊 -richey From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org<mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org>> on behalf of Kenny Sallee via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> Date: Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 10:22 AM To: Lederer, Linda <llederer@quakervalleyfoods.com<mailto:llederer@quakervalleyfoods.com>> Cc: outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 I encourage my customers to always assume carriers, hardware, and software are going to fail and have backup plans/methods. Either the business pays for it before it's needed or they lose money or productivity that affects the bottom line. It's a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if the business is OK with outages we do not need backup/redundancy. But if we are out for x hours it will cost y dollars. What's your business decision: pay for redundancy/backup or be ok with outages? 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Per JM adding outages discussion. I did not realise they were omitted before. Apologies. [data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAP///wAAACwAAAAAAQABAAACAkQBADs=3D] On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 7:05 AM James Milko <jmilko@gmail.com> wrote:

This is where someone pops in and reminds folks about -discuss.

JM

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 2:52 PM Lederer, Linda via Outages <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> wrote:

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If only it were that simple – real Maple Syrup however would be awfully expensive to use in large quantities to shield from solar flares….

 

Linda Lederer

IT DEPARTMENT

 

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From: Michael B. Williams <michael.williams@glexia.com [michael.williams@glexia.com]> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 2:45 PM To: mike tancsa <mike@sentex.net [mike@sentex.net]> Cc: Steele, John <john.steele@ennis.k12.tx.us [john.steele@ennis.k12.tx.us]>; Lederer, Linda <llederer@quakervalleyfoods. com [llederer@quakervalleyfoods.com]>; outages <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22

 

Are you implying Maple Syrup protects against EMP? (Not financial advice)

 

 

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On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 6:44 AM mike tancsa via Outages <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> wrote:

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We were not impacted in Canada as our abundant Maple Syrup and other shielding cliches provided protection from the storm. 

    ---Mike

On 2/22/2024 2:36 PM, Steele, John via Outages wrote:

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That is bull. I'm a HAM and we have had R3's many times and nothing like that happened.  She has no clue.

 

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 1:01 PM Lederer, Linda via Outages <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> wrote:

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Haha neither do I but look at the source of that Tweet.

 

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From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org [outages-bounces@outages.org]> On Behalf Of Jeff Martinez via Outages Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 1:45 PM To: Sterling Jaynes <sterling.jaynes@mactexas.com [sterling.jaynes@mactexas.com]>; Jim Harton <jim@cybersweat.shop> [jim@cybersweat.shop]; Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com [josh@imaginenetworksllc.com]> Cc: outages <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22

 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1760684323563602279 [https://twitter.com/i/status/1760684323563602279]

 

I don’t buy it!

 

 

 

JM

 

From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org [outages-bounces@outages.org]> On Behalf Of Sterling Jaynes via Outages Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 12:29 PM To: Jim Harton <jim@cybersweat.shop [jim@cybersweat.shop]>; Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com [josh@imaginenetworksllc.com]> Cc: outages <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22

 

Verizon did have reports of network issues this morning for a time, where it seemed their HLR (where SIM cards register to on the network) was being flooded by AT&T devices attempting to register on their network (which is what cellular devices will do when it can’t register). But it cleared up quickly.

 

Other reports of T-Mobile/Verizon outages appear to just be users who can’t contact AT&T users.

 

Sterling Jaynes

Director of IT Operations

 

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A lot of the individuals who claimed to have service issues (at least locally) using TMO and VZW claimed that because they were attempting to call individuals on AT&T.  In two cases of individuals I talked to they had full voice and data.  I haven't seen any confirmation on other providers being down, and VZW put out a statement stating they were aware of "another carrier" being down, but they were unaffected. 

 

Example from news:

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Verizon said Thursday morning that the outages are not affecting its network directly, only customers trying to reach another carrier.

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T-Mobile also said early Thursday that the network didn't suffer an outage and is operating normally, and Downdetector numbers likely reflect customers attempting to reach users on other networks.

 

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t- mobile-customers-hit-widespread-cellular-outages-us-rcna139938 [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t-mobile-customers-hit-widesp...]

 

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:44 AM Josh Luthman via Outages <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> wrote:

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Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all seems like speculation at this point.

 

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via Outages <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> wrote:

> Modern phones don’t use hardware sims to the best of my knowledge, > using e-sims instead.  > >   > > (Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim in case > you need to work with a backwards carrier).  > >   > > I’ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT, Verizon, and > T-Mo which account for the vast majority of licensed spectrum in > the US. (Basically all three primary carriers and thus likely > every MVNO as well (several of them were also mentioned).  > >   > > An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case.  > >   > > Owen > >   > >   > > > On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages > > <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> wrote: > > >  Agreed! > > > >   > > > > After reading through more lines of someone’s extremely > > obnoxious email signature than actual discussion in this thread, > > it seems like there is a huge amount of panic associated with > > this. Yes, it sucks that outages happen, and they shouldn’t > > happen… but cell service is a best effort offering and we cannot > > control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack thereof).  > > > >   > > > > Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If > > your cell phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a > > second SIM on another carrier. Even if it’s just a cheap prepaid > > SIM on an MVNO that doesn’t use the same underlying carrier… > > It’s cheap insurance to keep you connected.  > > > >   > > > > > On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages > > > <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> wrote: > > > > >  > > > > > > Remember.  This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained > > > by humans.       At least for now…..  😊 > > > > > >   > > > > > >   > > > > > > -richey > > > > > >   > > > > > > From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org > > > [outages-bounces@outages.org]> on behalf of Kenny Sallee via > > > Outages <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> > > > Date: Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 10:22 AM > > > To: Lederer, Linda <llederer@quakervalleyfoods.com > > > [llederer@quakervalleyfoods.com]> > > > Cc: outages <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> > > > Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network > > > 2024-02-22 > > > > > > I encourage my customers to always assume carriers, hardware, > > > and software are going to fail and have backup plans/methods.  > > > Either the business pays for it before it's needed or they > > > lose money or productivity that affects the bottom line.  It's > > > a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if the business is OK with > > > outages we do not need backup/redundancy.  But if we are out > > > for x hours it will cost y dollars.  What's your business > > > decision: pay for redundancy/backup or be ok with outages? > > > Redundancy is not necessarily a technical issue; it is a > > > business issue. > > > > > >   > > > > > > ;) > > > > > >   > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:38 AM Lederer, Linda via Outages > > > <outages@outages.org [outages@outages.org]> wrote: > > > > > > > We use a fleet tracking service called Samsara which uses > > > > ATT – so this has been lovely…. > > > > > > > >   > > > > > > > > Linda Lederer > > > > > > > > IT DEPARTMENT > > > > > > > >   > > > > > > > > <image001.png> > > > > > > > > 2701 Red Lion Road > > > > > > > > Philadelphia, PA  19154 > > > > > > > > Office:  215.992.0900 > > > > > > > > Ext. 238 > > > > > > > >   > > > > > > > > <image002.png> [http://www.facebook.com/quakervalleyfoods/] > > > > > > > > <image003.png> > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5DfxpLA6aGpeCwMvrNFxFQ] > > > > > > > > <image004.png> > > > > [https://www.linkedin.com/company/quaker-valley-foods] > > > > > > > > <image005.png> [http://www.quakervalleyfoods.com/] > > > > > > > >   > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole > > > > use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > > > > confidential and privileged information. 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Michael B. Williams via Outages writes:

Are you implying Maple Syrup protects against EMP?

Yes! Nothing gets past that thick sweet mapley goodness! _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

ATT now stating all service restored. still no statement on root cause https://about.att.com/pages/network-update Bruce Orcutt UTSA Libraries: Systems (210) 458- 6192 ________________________________ From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> on behalf of Stephen Wilcox via Outages <outages@outages.org> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 3:05:15 PM To: Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) <lyndon@orthanc.ca> Cc: Michael B. Williams via Outages <outages@outages.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 **EXTERNAL EMAIL** This email originated outside of The University of Texas at San Antonio. Please exercise caution when clicking on links or opening attachments. Fyi. Received a Welcome to XX message while roaming outside USA just now, suggesting they are restarting something affecting customers globally. On Fri, 23 Feb 2024, 00:28 Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) via Outages, <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Michael B. Williams via Outages writes:

Are you implying Maple Syrup protects against EMP?

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