I realize it takes time for folks to read such "stop" emails, but now that we all had time to share our take on the subject, members are requested to take meta-discussion off-list. I believe we have partial concensus that we prefer to hear about actual outages, and that discussion should not be "outlawed" quite yet, but self-moderation is encouraged. We know this model works from the past few months, now that the list is kindly hosted by Jared on puck, things should return to normal, and we will see how things go from here. Gadi.