While we're pleased that we have such a helpful and well informed group of denizens on the list, we encourage you to check the rest of a thread when possible before replying -- there were 6 or 7 postings about the Gcal outage Thursday that were effectively identical. Remember: many subscribers direct the outages@ mailing list to a cellphone, for faster response time, so read before you write, move discussions off to outages-discussion@, and avoid "meetoos" -- and postings that will encourage those, when you can. We now return you to our regular lurching bedlam, already in progress. Happy Fourth, everyone, and may your gear not go up in fireworks! Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274