I occasionally catch a little crap -- we've lost some subscribers for it over 8 years or more -- about what I consider a fit topic to announce on this main list. It includes outages or major impacts to what some people call "eyeball" services: things like Twitter, Google, and... Facebook. My primary motivation there is that people who subscribe to this list may run, at one layer or another, technical support organizations, and it's useful for them to be able to broadcast to their operators "Yes, Facebook is down for everyone; it's not just you; no, we don't know how long it will be down" so they have that answer for callers, or can put it on a preroll announcement, or what have you. But that's not my only motivation. CWO Ret. Jim Wright, of Stonekettle Station, puts much better than I could another important reason why it's important to know about such outages -- even though 'sho ip bgp' isn't necessarily going to help *you* fix them -- and, at the risk of a few cuss words (he was a Navy Chief, of course there will be cuss words) I think you might find it useful to read his own after action report about yesterday: https://www.stonekettle.com/2021/10/recap-october-4-2021.html Keep thinkin' those good thoughts, networkers, and we're workin' on the list delay problems. [ as always, reply-to -discuss, please, not to the main list ] Cheers, -- jr '<admin/' a -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274