Anyone aware of any known outages/issues for FIOS? Have a handful of customers in northern NJ with business FIOS with 50%+ packet loss on all verizon hops. We have checked these customers and theres no congestion on their networks. We're aware of the Verizon strike in progress and wondering if maybe some repair or maintenance is not being done because of the strike? If anyone from VZ has ability to dig deeper or if anyone else is seeing similar issues would be good to hear. thanks chris
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:30 AM, chris via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Anyone aware of any known outages/issues for FIOS? Have a handful of customers in northern NJ with business FIOS with 50%+ packet loss on all verizon hops. We have checked these customers and theres no congestion on their networks.
We're aware of the Verizon strike in progress and wondering if maybe some repair or maintenance is not being done because of the strike?
...or possibly worse: http://www.verizon.com/about/news/criminals-put-thousands-verizon-customers-... Damian If anyone from VZ has ability to dig deeper or if anyone else is seeing
similar issues would be good to hear.
Definitely not the result of the union playing hardball in their negotiations… From: Outages [mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org] On Behalf Of Damian Menscher via Outages Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 1:58 PM To: chris Cc: outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] Verizon Issues? On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:30 AM, chris via Outages <outages@outages.org<mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Anyone aware of any known outages/issues for FIOS? Have a handful of customers in northern NJ with business FIOS with 50%+ packet loss on all verizon hops. We have checked these customers and theres no congestion on their networks. We're aware of the Verizon strike in progress and wondering if maybe some repair or maintenance is not being done because of the strike? ...or possibly worse: http://www.verizon.com/about/news/criminals-put-thousands-verizon-customers-... Damian If anyone from VZ has ability to dig deeper or if anyone else is seeing similar issues would be good to hear.
So I'm skeptical about the truth of this comment, and I'm wondering if someone could set me a bit straighter: "These reckless perpetrators are risking the lives of countless Americans by cutting access to key lines of communications, especially to local police, fire and rescue personnel." Don't the local lines to police / fire go through the 911 dispatch? Wouldn't that be a municipal (city-owned) communications platform? If this is the case, wouldn't landline calls to 911 still work just fine? Wouldn't a non-Verizon cellphone still also be able to get a call through? On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Damian Menscher via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:30 AM, chris via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Anyone aware of any known outages/issues for FIOS? Have a handful of customers in northern NJ with business FIOS with 50%+ packet loss on all verizon hops. We have checked these customers and theres no congestion on their networks.
We're aware of the Verizon strike in progress and wondering if maybe some repair or maintenance is not being done because of the strike?
...or possibly worse: http://www.verizon.com/about/news/criminals-put-thousands-verizon-customers-...
Damian
If anyone from VZ has ability to dig deeper or if anyone else is seeing
similar issues would be good to hear.
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The 911 PSAP trunks / lines are provided by the LEC to the 911 center in most cases. If there aren't any other LECs near by then yes the 911 PSAPs could be without service. Not to mention that the radio traffic for some radio systems might travel over parts of the VZ network that are damaged. On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Charles Goorsky via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:
So I'm skeptical about the truth of this comment, and I'm wondering if someone could set me a bit straighter:
"These reckless perpetrators are risking the lives of countless Americans by cutting access to key lines of communications, especially to local police, fire and rescue personnel."
Don't the local lines to police / fire go through the 911 dispatch? Wouldn't that be a municipal (city-owned) communications platform? If this is the case, wouldn't landline calls to 911 still work just fine?
Wouldn't a non-Verizon cellphone still also be able to get a call through?
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Damian Menscher via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:30 AM, chris via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Anyone aware of any known outages/issues for FIOS? Have a handful of customers in northern NJ with business FIOS with 50%+ packet loss on all verizon hops. We have checked these customers and theres no congestion on their networks.
We're aware of the Verizon strike in progress and wondering if maybe some repair or maintenance is not being done because of the strike?
...or possibly worse: http://www.verizon.com/about/news/criminals-put-thousands-verizon-customers-...
Damian
If anyone from VZ has ability to dig deeper or if anyone else is seeing
similar issues would be good to hear.
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So in other words, VZ has under-engineered their network so that a single point of failure brings the entire 911 system down for the region? At the prices government pays for telco contracts, one would hope that’s not the case. -- Charles Sprickman NetEng/SysAdmin Bway.net - New York's Best Internet www.bway.net spork@bway.net - 212.982.9800
On Apr 21, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Ryan Chewning via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
The 911 PSAP trunks / lines are provided by the LEC to the 911 center in most cases. If there aren't any other LECs near by then yes the 911 PSAPs could be without service. Not to mention that the radio traffic for some radio systems might travel over parts of the VZ network that are damaged.
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Charles Goorsky via Outages <outages@outages.org <mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: So I'm skeptical about the truth of this comment, and I'm wondering if someone could set me a bit straighter:
"These reckless perpetrators are risking the lives of countless Americans by cutting access to key lines of communications, especially to local police, fire and rescue personnel."
Don't the local lines to police / fire go through the 911 dispatch? Wouldn't that be a municipal (city-owned) communications platform? If this is the case, wouldn't landline calls to 911 still work just fine?
Wouldn't a non-Verizon cellphone still also be able to get a call through?
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Damian Menscher via Outages <outages@outages.org <mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:30 AM, chris via Outages <outages@outages.org <mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Anyone aware of any known outages/issues for FIOS? Have a handful of customers in northern NJ with business FIOS with 50%+ packet loss on all verizon hops. We have checked these customers and theres no congestion on their networks.
We're aware of the Verizon strike in progress and wondering if maybe some repair or maintenance is not being done because of the strike?
...or possibly worse: http://www.verizon.com/about/news/criminals-put-thousands-verizon-customers-... <http://www.verizon.com/about/news/criminals-put-thousands-verizon-customers-out-service-cutting-cables-and-damaging-network>
Damian
If anyone from VZ has ability to dig deeper or if anyone else is seeing similar issues would be good to hear.
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On Apr 21, 2016, at 1:16 PM, Charles Sprickman via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
So in other words, VZ has under-engineered their network so that a single point of failure brings the entire 911 system down for the region? At the prices government pays for telco contracts, one would hope that’s not the case. -- Charles Sprickman NetEng/SysAdmin Bway.net <http://bway.net/> - New York's Best Internet www.bway.net <http://www.bway.net/> spork@bway.net <mailto:spork@bway.net> - 212.982.9800
On Apr 21, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Ryan Chewning via Outages <outages@outages.org <mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote:
The 911 PSAP trunks / lines are provided by the LEC to the 911 center in most cases. If there aren't any other LECs near by then yes the 911 PSAPs could be without service. Not to mention that the radio traffic for some radio systems might travel over parts of the VZ network that are damaged.
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Charles Goorsky via Outages <outages@outages.org <mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: So I'm skeptical about the truth of this comment, and I'm wondering if someone could set me a bit straighter:
"These reckless perpetrators are risking the lives of countless Americans by cutting access to key lines of communications, especially to local police, fire and rescue personnel."
Don't the local lines to police / fire go through the 911 dispatch? Wouldn't that be a municipal (city-owned) communications platform? If this is the case, wouldn't landline calls to 911 still work just fine?
Wouldn't a non-Verizon cellphone still also be able to get a call through?
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Damian Menscher via Outages <outages@outages.org <mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:30 AM, chris via Outages <outages@outages.org <mailto:outages@outages.org>> wrote: Anyone aware of any known outages/issues for FIOS? Have a handful of customers in northern NJ with business FIOS with 50%+ packet loss on all verizon hops. We have checked these customers and theres no congestion on their networks.
We're aware of the Verizon strike in progress and wondering if maybe some repair or maintenance is not being done because of the strike?
...or possibly worse: http://www.verizon.com/about/news/criminals-put-thousands-verizon-customers-... <http://www.verizon.com/about/news/criminals-put-thousands-verizon-customers-out-service-cutting-cables-and-damaging-network>
Damian
If anyone from VZ has ability to dig deeper or if anyone else is seeing similar issues would be good to hear.
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