4.2.2.2 down in LA area

been down for maybe 30-45 minutes tried it from spectrum fiber, att fiber, my fiber, everyone's fiber, dying at level3 for me, works from digitalocean up north though. tried from some other random vps and it's down there too, no queries, no mtr but queries working from digitalocean. as i was writing this email, i'm seeing it responding to ping here and there but no dns yet

I've been seeing it have issues since December. I got no response at all about the increased icmp latency and the poor DNS availability when I posted some time ago. On Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 4:13 AM jd via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
been down for maybe 30-45 minutes
tried it from spectrum fiber, att fiber, my fiber, everyone's fiber, dying at level3 for me, works from digitalocean up north though.
tried from some other random vps and it's down there too, no queries, no mtr but queries working from digitalocean.
as i was writing this email, i'm seeing it responding to ping here and there but no dns yet
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Hi Team - I have been seeing issues as well since approximately 19 December 2022.

Speaking as a former Level 3 employee from way back. 4.2.2.2 is NOT a polling server. So if you're using it for that, you should stop. Second, while it is publicly available for DNS, it is first and foremost a server for Level 3 customers. What they do with it and how available it is outside the network is not guaranteed. YMMV. - Mike Bolitho On Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 3:03 AM Michael B. Williams via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:
Hi Team - I have been seeing issues as well since approximately 19 December 2022. _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

Additionally, configuring one DNS server is a bad idea. I’m not sure if 4.2.2.2 is anycasted, but 4.2.2.1 through 4.2.2.6 exist and all work, so if you are a Lumen customer and want to use their resolvers, it’d be prudent to configure any two of those. In other words, I mean this as gently as possible, but one of six redundant servers going offline is not what I’d call an “outage.” On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 08:34 Mike Bolitho via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Speaking as a former Level 3 employee from way back. 4.2.2.2 is NOT a polling server. So if you're using it for that, you should stop. Second, while it is publicly available for DNS, it is first and foremost a server for Level 3 customers. What they do with it and how available it is outside the network is not guaranteed. YMMV.
- Mike Bolitho
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 3:03 AM Michael B. Williams via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote:
Hi Team - I have been seeing issues as well since approximately 19 December 2022. _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages
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Cisco TAC had advocated to use 4 2.2.2, but a few years ago GTE suggested alternative targets for testing public connectivity.And yes, 4.2.2.2 being down does not constitute an outage.Richard GolodnerInfratection -------- Original message --------From: Hunter Fuller via Outages <outages@outages.org> Date: 3/8/23 12:29 (GMT-06:00) To: Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho@gmail.com> Cc: OUTAGES Mailing List <outages@outages.org> Subject: Re: [outages] [External] Re: 4.2.2.2 down in LA area Additionally, configuring one DNS server is a bad idea. I’m not sure if 4.2.2.2 is anycasted, but 4.2.2.1 through 4.2.2.6 exist and all work, so if you are a Lumen customer and want to use their resolvers, it’d be prudent to configure any two of those. In other words, I mean this as gently as possible, but one of six redundant servers going offline is not what I’d call an “outage.”On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 08:34 Mike Bolitho via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:Speaking as a former Level 3 employee from way back. 4.2.2.2 is NOT a polling server. So if you're using it for that, you should stop. Second, while it is publicly available for DNS, it is first and foremost a server for Level 3 customers. What they do with it and how available it is outside the network is not guaranteed. YMMV.- Mike BolithoOn Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 3:03 AM Michael B. Williams via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:Hi Team - I have been seeing issues as well since approximately 19 December 2022. _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages -- --Hunter Fuller (they)Router JockeyVBH M-1C+1 256 824 5331Office of Information TechnologyThe University of Alabama in HuntsvilleNetwork Engineering

Cisco TAC had advocated to use 4 2.2.2, but a few years ago GTE suggested alternative targets for testing public connectivity.And yes, 4.2.2.2 being down does not constitute an outage.Richard GolodnerInfratection -------- Original message --------From: Hunter Fuller via Outages <outages@outages.org> Date: 3/8/23 12:29 (GMT-06:00) To: Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho@gmail.com> Cc: OUTAGES Mailing List <outages@outages.org> Subject: Re: [outages] [External] Re: 4.2.2.2 down in LA area Additionally, configuring one DNS server is a bad idea. I’m not sure if 4.2.2.2 is anycasted, but 4.2.2.1 through 4.2.2.6 exist and all work, so if you are a Lumen customer and want to use their resolvers, it’d be prudent to configure any two of those. In other words, I mean this as gently as possible, but one of six redundant servers going offline is not what I’d call an “outage.”On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 08:34 Mike Bolitho via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:Speaking as a former Level 3 employee from way back. 4.2.2.2 is NOT a polling server. So if you're using it for that, you should stop. Second, while it is publicly available for DNS, it is first and foremost a server for Level 3 customers. What they do with it and how available it is outside the network is not guaranteed. YMMV.- Mike BolithoOn Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 3:03 AM Michael B. Williams via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:Hi Team - I have been seeing issues as well since approximately 19 December 2022. _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages -- --Hunter Fuller (they)Router JockeyVBH M-1C+1 256 824 5331Office of Information TechnologyThe University of Alabama in HuntsvilleNetwork Engineering _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

i have many tests going on, i didn't know it had been down for others, for me and the tests i had, it dropped yesterday, perhaps location really does matter and not just level3 ips, i do not use this for anything important. thank you On 3/8/2023 10:28 AM, Hunter Fuller via Outages wrote:
Additionally, configuring one DNS server is a bad idea. I’m not sure if 4.2.2.2 is anycasted, but 4.2.2.1 through 4.2.2.6 exist and all work, so if you are a Lumen customer and want to use their resolvers, it’d be prudent to configure any two of those.
In other words, I mean this as gently as possible, but one of six redundant servers going offline is not what I’d call an “outage.”
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 08:34 Mike Bolitho via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Speaking as a former Level 3 employee from way back. 4.2.2.2 is NOT a polling server. So if you're using it for that, you should stop. Second, while it is publicly available for DNS, it is first and foremost a server for Level 3 customers. What they do with it and how available it is outside the network is not guaranteed. YMMV.
- Mike Bolitho
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 3:03 AM Michael B. Williams via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Hi Team - I have been seeing issues as well since approximately 19 December 2022. _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages
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