Re: [outages] fibre cut near 200 Paul, San Francisco

/lurk mode off I agree! A determined person will get the information and wreck havoc regardless of how well it is hidden! /lurk mode on Thanks, Jim Please excuse the typos. Sent from my wireless handheld device. ----- Original Message ----- From: outages-bounces@outages.org <outages-bounces@outages.org> To: outages@outages.org <outages@outages.org> Sent: Thu Apr 09 17:20:56 2009 Subject: Re: [outages] fibre cut near 200 Paul, San Francisco On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Bill Wichers <billw@waveform.net> wrote:
Yeah, I read that and my first thought was "just what we need, people *explaining* how to cause problems".
I've never been a big fan of publicizing detailed fiber route maps though, I guess this just gives me more reasons to make that argument...
who needs detailed fiber maps when you can have the 1-800-DIG people come out and spray paint the important routes for you? people who want to destroy things will figure out how to destroy them. hack saw, gasoline, or otherwise. maybe we should lay so much fiber it wont matter what they firebomb (-: _______________________________________________ outages mailing list outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

I agree too, I could give my kids a box of tooth picks and take out racks of switches and router by locking the fans, why not put the vaults 4-6 feet down under dirt? -----Original Message----- From: outages-bounces@outages.org [mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org] On Behalf Of Jim McBurnett Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:38 PM To: aaron.glenn@gmail.com; outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] fibre cut near 200 Paul, San Francisco /lurk mode off I agree! A determined person will get the information and wreck havoc regardless of how well it is hidden! /lurk mode on Thanks, Jim Please excuse the typos. Sent from my wireless handheld device. ----- Original Message ----- From: outages-bounces@outages.org <outages-bounces@outages.org> To: outages@outages.org <outages@outages.org> Sent: Thu Apr 09 17:20:56 2009 Subject: Re: [outages] fibre cut near 200 Paul, San Francisco On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Bill Wichers <billw@waveform.net> wrote:
Yeah, I read that and my first thought was "just what we need, people *explaining* how to cause problems".
I've never been a big fan of publicizing detailed fiber route maps though, I guess this just gives me more reasons to make that argument...
who needs detailed fiber maps when you can have the 1-800-DIG people come out and spray paint the important routes for you? people who want to destroy things will figure out how to destroy them. hack saw, gasoline, or otherwise. maybe we should lay so much fiber it wont matter what they firebomb (-: _______________________________________________ outages mailing list outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages _______________________________________________ outages mailing list outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

Could this have something to do with the problems ? http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2009/04/06/att-union-contract-expir... Sounds to me like an ongoing union dispute may be at the bottom of this. The other Bob
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