w3.org dtd files really slow?

We're running web apps that require the use of W3's dtd files. We're getting some serious timeouts. $ time curl -I http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/HTMLlat1.ent HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:27:20 GMT Server: Apache/2 Last-Modified: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:26:00 GMT ETag: "2eb4-35c73f0bc5200" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 11956 Cache-Control: max-age=7776000 Expires: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:27:20 GMT P3P: policyref="http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml" Connection: close Content-Type: application/xml-external-parsed-entity real 0m29.297s user 0m0.007s sys 0m0.005s As well as when we try caching the file locally, we're getting a ton of app errors when it tries to consume it. Anyone else? -Michael

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:28:29AM -0400, Mike wrote:
We're running web apps that require the use of W3's dtd files.
We're getting some serious timeouts.
$ time curl -I http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/HTMLlat1.ent HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:27:20 GMT Server: Apache/2 Last-Modified: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:26:00 GMT ETag: "2eb4-35c73f0bc5200" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 11956 Cache-Control: max-age=7776000 Expires: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:27:20 GMT P3P: policyref="http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml" Connection: close Content-Type: application/xml-external-parsed-entity
real 0m29.297s user 0m0.007s sys 0m0.005s
As well as when we try caching the file locally, we're getting a ton of app errors when it tries to consume it.
Anyone else?
Same here coming from Charter in West Michigan % /usr/bin/time -p curl -I http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/HTMLlat1.ent HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:42:46 GMT Server: Apache/2 Last-Modified: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:26:00 GMT ETag: "2eb4-35c73f0bc5200" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 11956 Cache-Control: max-age=7776000 Expires: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:42:46 GMT P3P: policyref="http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml" Connection: close Content-Type: application/xml-external-parsed-entity real 29.38 user 0.04 sys 0.00 -- - (2^(N-1))

Verizon FIOS in MD: time curl -I http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/HTMLlat1.ent HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:45:33 GMT Server: Apache/2 Last-Modified: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:26:00 GMT ETag: "2eb4-35c73f0bc5200" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 11956 Cache-Control: max-age=7776000 Expires: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:45:33 GMT P3P: policyref="http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml" Connection: close Content-Type: application/xml-external-parsed-entity real 0m29.435s user 0m0.008s sys 0m0.006s -- Mickey Panayiotakis Managing Partner 800.270.5170 x512 <http://www.infamia.com/> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net>wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:28:29AM -0400, Mike wrote:
We're running web apps that require the use of W3's dtd files.
We're getting some serious timeouts.
$ time curl -I http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/HTMLlat1.ent HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:27:20 GMT Server: Apache/2 Last-Modified: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:26:00 GMT ETag: "2eb4-35c73f0bc5200" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 11956 Cache-Control: max-age=7776000 Expires: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:27:20 GMT P3P: policyref="http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml" Connection: close Content-Type: application/xml-external-parsed-entity
real 0m29.297s user 0m0.007s sys 0m0.005s
As well as when we try caching the file locally, we're getting a ton of app errors when it tries to consume it.
Anyone else?
Same here coming from Charter in West Michigan
% /usr/bin/time -p curl -I http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/HTMLlat1.ent HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:42:46 GMT Server: Apache/2 Last-Modified: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:26:00 GMT ETag: "2eb4-35c73f0bc5200" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 11956 Cache-Control: max-age=7776000 Expires: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:42:46 GMT P3P: policyref="http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml" Connection: close Content-Type: application/xml-external-parsed-entity
real 29.38 user 0.04 sys 0.00
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Same here: nagios:/etc/nagios3# time curl -I http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/HTMLlat1.ent HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:44:48 GMT Server: Apache/2 Last-Modified: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:26:00 GMT ETag: "2eb4-35c73f0bc5200" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 11956 Cache-Control: max-age=7776000 Expires: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:44:48 GMT P3P: policyref="http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml" Connection: close Content-Type: application/xml-external-parsed-entity real 0m29.363s user 0m0.000s sys 0m0.004s nagios:/etc/nagios3# Frank -----Original Message----- From: outages-bounces@outages.org [mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:28 AM To: outages Subject: [outages] w3.org dtd files really slow? We're running web apps that require the use of W3's dtd files. We're getting some serious timeouts. $ time curl -I http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/HTMLlat1.ent HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:27:20 GMT Server: Apache/2 Last-Modified: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:26:00 GMT ETag: "2eb4-35c73f0bc5200" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 11956 Cache-Control: max-age=7776000 Expires: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:27:20 GMT P3P: policyref="http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml" Connection: close Content-Type: application/xml-external-parsed-entity real 0m29.297s user 0m0.007s sys 0m0.005s As well as when we try caching the file locally, we're getting a ton of app errors when it tries to consume it. Anyone else? -Michael _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

On Jun 18, 2012, at 17:28, Mike wrote:
We're running web apps that require the use of W3's dtd files.
Not an outage. http://www.w3.org/Help/Webmaster.html#slowdtd It is time to fix those apps. (It has been since about 2008. http://www.w3.org/blog/systeam/2008/02/08/w3c_s_excessive_dtd_traffic/ ) Grüße, Carsten

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <miketheman@gmail.com>
We're running web apps that require the use of W3's dtd files.
We're getting some serious timeouts.
Slow here, too; Road Runner Lightning Tampa Bay: jra@elphaba:/appl/downloads> time -p curl -I http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/HTMLlat1.ent HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:15:14 GMT Server: Apache/2 Last-Modified: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:26:00 GMT ETag: "2eb4-35c73f0bc5200" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 11956 Cache-Control: max-age=7776000 Expires: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:15:14 GMT P3P: policyref="http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml" Connection: close Content-Type: application/xml-external-parsed-entity real 30.60 user 0.00 sys 0.00 $ Just for giggles, I checked the DNS resolve; 15ms on the second hit, but a second curl was still slow. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
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Carsten Bormann
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Frank Bulk
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Jason Hellenthal
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Jay Ashworth
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Mickey Panayiotakis
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Mike