Syria off the net
The press is reporting on Renesys' report that Syria has finally dropped all its internet connectivity earlier this morning: http://www.renesys.com/blog/2012/11/syria-off-the-air.shtml http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/29/web-monitor-100-p... George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone
GWH cross-posted this to NANOG and here, but I think the list held it because it was cross posted. Syria fall down go poof: ----- Forwarded Message -----
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The press is reporting on Renesys' report that Syria has finally dropped all its internet connectivity earlier this morning:
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2012/11/syria-off-the-air.shtml
http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/29/web-monitor-100-p...
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Can anyone on the list confirm/expand? Cutting off web traffic isn't cutting off network access. Carl Brooks Analyst, IT infrastructure and cloud Tier 1 and 451 Research Carl.brooks@4 <mailto:Carl.brooks@tier1research.com>51research.com 617-275-8820 On 11/29/12 12:50 PM, "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
GWH cross-posted this to NANOG and here, but I think the list held it because it was cross posted.
Syria fall down go poof:
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The press is reporting on Renesys' report that Syria has finally dropped all its internet connectivity earlier this morning:
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2012/11/syria-off-the-air.shtml
http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/29/web-monitor-10 0-percent-of-syrias-internet-just-shut-down/
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Those articals mention all the ups stopped being routed....that's no net On Nov 29, 2012 1:21 PM, "Carl Brooks" <carl.brooks@tier1research.com> wrote:
Can anyone on the list confirm/expand? Cutting off web traffic isn't cutting off network access.
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On 11/29/12 12:50 PM, "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
GWH cross-posted this to NANOG and here, but I think the list held it because it was cross posted.
Syria fall down go poof:
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The press is reporting on Renesys' report that Syria has finally dropped all its internet connectivity earlier this morning:
http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/29/web-monitor-10
0-percent-of-syrias-internet-just-shut-down/
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Really? What about cellular? Satellite? Over-border wireless? "Question everything, assume nothing, discuss all, and resolve quickly." -- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, alex@nac.net<mailto:alex@nac.net>, latency, Al Reuben -- -- Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net -- From: outages-bounces@outages.org [mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org] On Behalf Of Mitch Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:24 PM To: Carl Brooks Cc: outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] Syria off the net Those articals mention all the ups stopped being routed....that's no net On Nov 29, 2012 1:21 PM, "Carl Brooks" <carl.brooks@tier1research.com<mailto:carl.brooks@tier1research.com>> wrote: Can anyone on the list confirm/expand? Cutting off web traffic isn't cutting off network access. Carl Brooks Analyst, IT infrastructure and cloud Tier 1 and 451 Research Carl.brooks@4<mailto:Carl.brooks@4> <mailto:Carl.brooks@tier1research.com<mailto:Carl.brooks@tier1research.com>>51research.com<http://51research.com> 617-275-8820<tel:617-275-8820> On 11/29/12 12:50 PM, "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com<mailto:jra@baylink.com>> wrote:
GWH cross-posted this to NANOG and here, but I think the list held it because it was cross posted.
Syria fall down go poof:
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "George Herbert" <george.herbert@gmail.com<mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com>>
The press is reporting on Renesys' report that Syria has finally dropped all its internet connectivity earlier this morning:
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2012/11/syria-off-the-air.shtml
http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/29/web-monitor-10 0-percent-of-syrias-internet-just-shut-down/
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It would appear that, in addition to NANS shutting down edge Internet devices, cellular and landline telephone service has been affected as well. I have heard reports that the only SY TLD DNS server responding is the one operated by RIPE.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20546302 --Heather ________________________________ From: outages-bounces@outages.org [mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org] On Behalf Of walkabouttigger Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:26 PM To: Mitch Cc: Carl Brooks; outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] Syria off the net It would appear that, in addition to NANS shutting down edge Internet devices, cellular and landline telephone service has been affected as well. I have heard reports that the only SY TLD DNS server responding is the one operated by RIPE.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Carl Brooks <carl.brooks@tier1research.com>wrote:
Can anyone on the list confirm/expand? Cutting off web traffic isn't cutting off network access.
This is not blocking web, or a kind of traffic. This is switching off power to the routers that connect Syrian ISPs to the rest of the world. For all we can tell, domestic traffic may still be flowing. A similar case last year, in Egypt, see: http://bit.ly/65w20v -- Sanjeev Gupta +65 98551208 http://sg.linkedin.com/in/ghane
Using ASN numbers you can see that a tiny piece is back. http://www.renesys.com/blog/2012/11/syria-off-the-air.shtml Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Sanjeev Gupta <sanjeev@dcs1.biz> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Carl Brooks < carl.brooks@tier1research.com> wrote:
Can anyone on the list confirm/expand? Cutting off web traffic isn't cutting off network access.
This is not blocking web, or a kind of traffic. This is switching off power to the routers that connect Syrian ISPs to the rest of the world.
For all we can tell, domestic traffic may still be flowing.
A similar case last year, in Egypt, see: http://bit.ly/65w20v
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Did they physically disconnect? or just disable eBGP? -Grant On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
Using ASN numbers you can see that a tiny piece is back.
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2012/11/syria-off-the-air.shtml
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Sanjeev Gupta <sanjeev@dcs1.biz> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Carl Brooks < carl.brooks@tier1research.com> wrote:
Can anyone on the list confirm/expand? Cutting off web traffic isn't cutting off network access.
This is not blocking web, or a kind of traffic. This is switching off power to the routers that connect Syrian ISPs to the rest of the world.
For all we can tell, domestic traffic may still be flowing.
A similar case last year, in Egypt, see: http://bit.ly/65w20v
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Cloudfare believes the routes were withdrawn: Beginning at 1026 UTC, routes were withdrawn for PCCW. The routing shifted primarily to Turk Telekom. Routes to Telecom Italia and TATA were also withdrawn, but has less of an impact. Then, at 1029 UTC, routes were withdrawn for Turk Telekom. After that, Syria was effectively cut off from the Internet. (Note that the remaining path that appears to be present in the video is an anomaly. We have confirmed that it is not actually active.) While we cannot know for sure, our network team estimates that Syria likely has a small number of edge routers. All the edge routers are controlled by Syrian Telecommunications. The systematic way in which routes were withdrawn suggests that this was done through updates in router configurations, not through a physical failure or cable cut. http://blog.cloudflare.com/how-syria-turned-off-the-internet BGPMon also talks about routes being withdrawn: http://www.bgpmon.net/syria-shuts-down-the-internet/ I wish those who directly peer with AS29256 would/could share their router logs. Did they see their BGP sessions timeout or were there BGP UPDATEs? Frank From: outages-bounces@outages.org [mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org] On Behalf Of Grant Ridder Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:16 PM To: Josh Luthman Cc: Carl Brooks; outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] Syria off the net Did they physically disconnect? or just disable eBGP? -Grant On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: Using ASN numbers you can see that a tiny piece is back. http://www.renesys.com/blog/2012/11/syria-off-the-air.shtml Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Sanjeev Gupta <sanjeev@dcs1.biz <mailto:sanjeev@dcs1.biz> > wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Carl Brooks <carl.brooks@tier1research.com <mailto:carl.brooks@tier1research.com> > wrote: Can anyone on the list confirm/expand? Cutting off web traffic isn't cutting off network access. This is not blocking web, or a kind of traffic. This is switching off power to the routers that connect Syrian ISPs to the rest of the world. For all we can tell, domestic traffic may still be flowing. A similar case last year, in Egypt, see: http://bit.ly/65w20v -- Sanjeev Gupta +65 98551208 <tel:%2B65%2098551208> http://sg.linkedin.com/in/ghane _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org <mailto:Outages@outages.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org <mailto:Outages@outages.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages
On Nov 29, 2012, at 19:15, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com> wrote:
Did they physically disconnect? or just disable eBGP?
http://blog.cloudflare.com/how-syria-turned-off-the-internet /sf
FYI they shut everything - cellular access also. I tried to reach out to an engineer in country via a contact I have but he cant reach them for this reason. I'm guessing they'll find a backdoor at some point but right now it seems they didnt. On 30 November 2012 04:02, Scott Francis <darkuncle@darkuncle.net> wrote:
On Nov 29, 2012, at 19:15, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com> wrote:
Did they physically disconnect? or just disable eBGP?
http://blog.cloudflare.com/how-syria-turned-off-the-internet
/sf
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We received a voice call via satellite phone approximately 2 hours ago from an engineer in country. Although the claim is that "terrorists" destroyed the Internet and cellular connections, we're all aware the type of concerted effort required to disconnect an entire country is likely something only a sovereign government would be capable of doing. Our engineer is working to get out of the country as government violence has significantly escalated.
has anyone tried contacting their embassy, as when it really were terrorists, they would probably be more than interested in getting some alternative links... a few 622mbit radio links or sattelite transponders would already suffice. (too bad for the 12 second rtt but at least it works ;) or are we the only ones to have trucks for that purpose :P (just how to get them there remains the question ;) -- CB3ROB LTD. ======================== DEDICATED SERVER FARMS IP TRANSIT SERVICES DATACENTER FACILITIES ======================== SKYPE: CB3ROB ======================== On Fri, 30 Nov 2012, walkabouttigger wrote:
We received a voice call via satellite phone approximately 2 hours ago from an engineer in country. Although the claim is that "terrorists" destroyed the Internet and cellular connections, we're all aware the type of concerted effort required to disconnect an entire country is likely something only a sovereign government would be capable of doing. Our engineer is working to get out of the country as government violence has significantly escalated.
for your info, the only decent transit pop for most the midddle east seems to be turkey and the rest of them simply have wires going to turkey, which can be blown up, cut in half, hit by a bomb, you name it. so the 'terrorist' story is more likely than it seems. however, if they're not interested in offers for getting their somewhat limited internet back up to its normal somewhat limited state, then we know enough, don't we :P (ie: then they're lying about the terrorists) (quite sure the payment would be the least of the issues ;) just send them an invoice for a bunch of brand new mercedes zetrosses plus satellite uplink set plus routing equipment and its fine.
has anyone tried contacting their embassy, as when it really were terrorists, they would probably be more than interested in getting some alternative links... a few 622mbit radio links or sattelite transponders would already suffice. (too bad for the 12 second rtt but at least it works ;)
or are we the only ones to have trucks for that purpose :P (just how to get them there remains the question ;)
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012, walkabouttigger wrote:
We received a voice call via satellite phone approximately 2 hours ago from an engineer in country. Although the claim is that "terrorists" destroyed the Internet and cellular connections, we're all aware the type of concerted effort required to disconnect an entire country is likely something only a sovereign government would be capable of doing. Our engineer is working to get out of the country as government violence has significantly escalated.
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Before anyone tell me I know it's not the place for discussion, so it would be my only mail about it :) but if you know colleague, worker, friend family or whoever those info can be useful feel free to transmit to them if you ever get a way to reach them, like those using satellite phone. I don't manage those link, so I can't guarantee they still work, but they have been activate for the isolate people of Syria.. and I also know even land line have been shut at many place so it could be hard to use.. but maybe it could be useful for someone here.. Internet dial up access +46850009990 +492317299993 +4953160941030 user:telecomix password:telecomix OR +33172890150 login:toto password:toto Call +902123391447 or +302111982716 or +390662207294 or +16504194196. Press 1 to tweet, 2 to hear tweets -=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=-- Francis Daigneault (CCNP,MCSE,ECSA|LPT) KNOWLEDGE IS FREE ! -----Original Message----- From: outages-bounces@outages.org [mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org] On Behalf Of Sven Olaf Kamphuis Sent: November-30-12 1:14 PM To: walkabouttigger Cc: outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] Syria off the net for your info, the only decent transit pop for most the midddle east seems to be turkey and the rest of them simply have wires going to turkey, which can be blown up, cut in half, hit by a bomb, you name it. so the 'terrorist' story is more likely than it seems. however, if they're not interested in offers for getting their somewhat limited internet back up to its normal somewhat limited state, then we know enough, don't we :P (ie: then they're lying about the terrorists) (quite sure the payment would be the least of the issues ;) just send them an invoice for a bunch of brand new mercedes zetrosses plus satellite uplink set plus routing equipment and its fine.
has anyone tried contacting their embassy, as when it really were terrorists, they would probably be more than interested in getting some alternative links... a few 622mbit radio links or sattelite transponders would already suffice. (too bad for the 12 second rtt but at least it works ;)
or are we the only ones to have trucks for that purpose :P (just how to get them there remains the question ;)
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012, walkabouttigger wrote:
We received a voice call via satellite phone approximately 2 hours ago from an engineer in country. Although the claim is that "terrorists" destroyed the Internet and cellular connections, we're all aware the type of concerted effort required to disconnect an entire country is likely something only a sovereign government would be capable of doing. Our engineer is working to get out of the country as government violence has significantly escalated.
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I have passed this information. My personal thanks to telecomix if you are listening. You know who you are :) regards, /virendra On 11/30/2012 10:21 AM, francis.daigneault@bell.ca wrote:
Before anyone tell me I know it's not the place for discussion, so it would be my only mail about it :) but if you know colleague, worker, friend family or whoever those info can be useful feel free to transmit to them if you ever get a way to reach them, like those using satellite phone.
I don't manage those link, so I can't guarantee they still work, but they have been activate for the isolate people of Syria.. and I also know even land line have been shut at many place so it could be hard to use.. but maybe it could be useful for someone here..
Internet dial up access +46850009990 +492317299993 +4953160941030 user:telecomix password:telecomix OR +33172890150 login:toto password:toto
Call +902123391447 or +302111982716 or +390662207294 or +16504194196. Press 1 to tweet, 2 to hear tweets
-=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=-- Francis Daigneault (CCNP,MCSE,ECSA|LPT) KNOWLEDGE IS FREE !
-----Original Message----- From: outages-bounces@outages.org [mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org] On Behalf Of Sven Olaf Kamphuis Sent: November-30-12 1:14 PM To: walkabouttigger Cc: outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] Syria off the net
for your info, the only decent transit pop for most the midddle east seems to be turkey and the rest of them simply have wires going to turkey, which can be blown up, cut in half, hit by a bomb, you name it.
so the 'terrorist' story is more likely than it seems.
however, if they're not interested in offers for getting their somewhat limited internet back up to its normal somewhat limited state, then we know enough, don't we :P (ie: then they're lying about the terrorists)
(quite sure the payment would be the least of the issues ;)
just send them an invoice for a bunch of brand new mercedes zetrosses plus satellite uplink set plus routing equipment and its fine.
has anyone tried contacting their embassy, as when it really were terrorists, they would probably be more than interested in getting some alternative links... a few 622mbit radio links or sattelite transponders would already suffice. (too bad for the 12 second rtt but at least it works ;)
or are we the only ones to have trucks for that purpose :P (just how to get them there remains the question ;)
--
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012, walkabouttigger wrote:
We received a voice call via satellite phone approximately 2 hours ago from an engineer in country. Although the claim is that "terrorists" destroyed the Internet and cellular connections, we're all aware the type of concerted effort required to disconnect an entire country is likely something only a sovereign government would be capable of doing. Our engineer is working to get out of the country as government violence has significantly escalated.
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http://www.qsl.net/tir/member%20info.htm not much use, they only have a handful of radio hams there and most of them seem to work for their government. -- CB3ROB LTD. ======================== DEDICATED SERVER FARMS IP TRANSIT SERVICES DATACENTER FACILITIES ======================== SKYPE: CB3ROB ======================== On Fri, 30 Nov 2012, francis.daigneault@bell.ca wrote:
Before anyone tell me I know it's not the place for discussion, so it would be my only mail about it :) but if you know colleague, worker, friend family or whoever those info can be useful feel free to transmit to them if you ever get a way to reach them, like those using satellite phone.
I don't manage those link, so I can't guarantee they still work, but they have been activate for the isolate people of Syria.. and I also know even land line have been shut at many place so it could be hard to use.. but maybe it could be useful for someone here..
Internet dial up access +46850009990 +492317299993 +4953160941030 user:telecomix password:telecomix OR +33172890150 login:toto password:toto
Call +902123391447 or +302111982716 or +390662207294 or +16504194196. Press 1 to tweet, 2 to hear tweets
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-----Original Message----- From: outages-bounces@outages.org [mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org] On Behalf Of Sven Olaf Kamphuis Sent: November-30-12 1:14 PM To: walkabouttigger Cc: outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] Syria off the net
for your info, the only decent transit pop for most the midddle east seems to be turkey and the rest of them simply have wires going to turkey, which can be blown up, cut in half, hit by a bomb, you name it.
so the 'terrorist' story is more likely than it seems.
however, if they're not interested in offers for getting their somewhat limited internet back up to its normal somewhat limited state, then we know enough, don't we :P (ie: then they're lying about the terrorists)
(quite sure the payment would be the least of the issues ;)
just send them an invoice for a bunch of brand new mercedes zetrosses plus satellite uplink set plus routing equipment and its fine.
has anyone tried contacting their embassy, as when it really were terrorists, they would probably be more than interested in getting some alternative links... a few 622mbit radio links or sattelite transponders would already suffice. (too bad for the 12 second rtt but at least it works ;)
or are we the only ones to have trucks for that purpose :P (just how to get them there remains the question ;)
--
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012, walkabouttigger wrote:
We received a voice call via satellite phone approximately 2 hours ago from an engineer in country. Although the claim is that "terrorists" destroyed the Internet and cellular connections, we're all aware the type of concerted effort required to disconnect an entire country is likely something only a sovereign government would be capable of doing. Our engineer is working to get out of the country as government violence has significantly escalated.
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If anyone wants a State Dept contact in regards to the Syrian network blockade, please drop me a line. Carl Brooks Analyst, IT infrastructure and cloud Tier 1 and 451 Research Carl.brooks@4 <mailto:Carl.brooks@tier1research.com>51research.com 617-275-8820 On 11/30/12 1:21 PM, "francis.daigneault@bell.ca" <francis.daigneault@bell.ca> wrote:
Before anyone tell me I know it's not the place for discussion, so it would be my only mail about it :) but if you know colleague, worker, friend family or whoever those info can be useful feel free to transmit to them if you ever get a way to reach them, like those using satellite phone.
I don't manage those link, so I can't guarantee they still work, but they have been activate for the isolate people of Syria.. and I also know even land line have been shut at many place so it could be hard to use.. but maybe it could be useful for someone here..
Internet dial up access +46850009990 +492317299993 +4953160941030 user:telecomix password:telecomix OR +33172890150 login:toto password:toto
Call +902123391447 or +302111982716 or +390662207294 or +16504194196. Press 1 to tweet, 2 to hear tweets
-=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=-- Francis Daigneault (CCNP,MCSE,ECSA|LPT) KNOWLEDGE IS FREE !
-----Original Message----- From: outages-bounces@outages.org [mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org] On Behalf Of Sven Olaf Kamphuis Sent: November-30-12 1:14 PM To: walkabouttigger Cc: outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] Syria off the net
for your info, the only decent transit pop for most the midddle east seems to be turkey and the rest of them simply have wires going to turkey, which can be blown up, cut in half, hit by a bomb, you name it.
so the 'terrorist' story is more likely than it seems.
however, if they're not interested in offers for getting their somewhat limited internet back up to its normal somewhat limited state, then we know enough, don't we :P (ie: then they're lying about the terrorists)
(quite sure the payment would be the least of the issues ;)
just send them an invoice for a bunch of brand new mercedes zetrosses plus satellite uplink set plus routing equipment and its fine.
has anyone tried contacting their embassy, as when it really were terrorists, they would probably be more than interested in getting some alternative links... a few 622mbit radio links or sattelite transponders would already suffice. (too bad for the 12 second rtt but at least it works ;)
or are we the only ones to have trucks for that purpose :P (just how to get them there remains the question ;)
--
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012, walkabouttigger wrote:
We received a voice call via satellite phone approximately 2 hours ago from an engineer in country. Although the claim is that "terrorists" destroyed the Internet and cellular connections, we're all aware the type of concerted effort required to disconnect an entire country is likely something only a sovereign government would be capable of doing. Our engineer is working to get out of the country as government violence has significantly escalated.
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On 30 November 2012 18:14, Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven@cb3rob.net> wrote:
for your info, the only decent transit pop for most the midddle east seems to be turkey and the rest of them simply have wires going to turkey, which can be blown up, cut in half, hit by a bomb, you name it.
This statement is ridiculous. Sorry, I had to drop this comment.. the middle east is a vast region and there are many cross border links, comparable to the west. There are reasons why Turkey is prominent due to geography and the sophistication of operators like Turk Telecom but its not "the only decent transit pop" (also when did a country count as being a "pop") Syria is somewhat more fragile being under UN embargos but it still has cross border links to the south as well. Not sure who "the rest of them" are - all the countries in the region? Bizarre idea. Steve
so the 'terrorist' story is more likely than it seems.
however, if they're not interested in offers for getting their somewhat limited internet back up to its normal somewhat limited state, then we know enough, don't we :P (ie: then they're lying about the terrorists)
(quite sure the payment would be the least of the issues ;)
just send them an invoice for a bunch of brand new mercedes zetrosses plus satellite uplink set plus routing equipment and its fine.
has anyone tried contacting their embassy, as when it really were
terrorists, they would probably be more than interested in getting some alternative links... a few 622mbit radio links or sattelite transponders would already suffice. (too bad for the 12 second rtt but at least it works ;)
or are we the only ones to have trucks for that purpose :P (just how to get them there remains the question ;)
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012, walkabouttigger wrote:
We received a voice call via satellite phone approximately 2 hours ago
from an engineer in country. Although the claim is that "terrorists" destroyed the Internet and cellular connections, we're all aware the type of concerted effort required to disconnect an entire country is likely something only a sovereign government would be capable of doing. Our engineer is working to get out of the country as government violence has significantly escalated.
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On Nov 30, 2012, at 12:40 , Stephen Wilcox <steve.wilcox@ixreach.com> wrote:
FYI they shut everything - cellular access also.
I tried to reach out to an engineer in country via a contact I have but he cant reach them for this reason. I'm guessing they'll find a backdoor at some point but right now it seems they didnt.
A gov't which sets up things in advance to have absolute control can do devastating things to communications infrastructure. It is nice to sit outside and talk about backdoors, int'l 3G roaming, satellite, etc., but from in-country, most people probably didn't spend a lot of money - and risk being put in jail or worse! - setting up dishes or the like just in case al-Assad proved to be an even bigger dick than some thought. (Personally, I'm surprised it took him this long.) So, let's just hope this ends quickly - for everyone's sake. It probably won't take long if he is this desperate. I hope.... -- TTFN, patrick
On 30 November 2012 04:02, Scott Francis <darkuncle@darkuncle.net> wrote:
On Nov 29, 2012, at 19:15, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com> wrote:
Did they physically disconnect? or just disable eBGP?
http://blog.cloudflare.com/how-syria-turned-off-the-internet
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I guess that was a big surprise that the special operations department was going to release according to the leader of the Syrian electronic army? I guess they figured this was the best alternate in order to put an end for the protesters using VPN, Tor, Skype, PGP, and not to mention when their cover got blown about using DarkComet trojan by their very own special operations team. Watch your camera fellas ;-) regards, /virendra -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [outages] Syria off the net Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:58:26 -0800 From: George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com> To: outages@outages.org <outages@outages.org>, NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> The press is reporting on Renesys' report that Syria has finally dropped all its internet connectivity earlier this morning: http://www.renesys.com/blog/2012/11/syria-off-the-air.shtml http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/29/web-monitor-100-p... George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Outages mailing list Outages@outages.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages
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